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Performance Mods

Ok a few ppl have been asking the same questions so I thought its about time i did a proper post.

The Eco-Tec Valve
Well to be honest It does make a difference but without the silencer is very noisy. It does aid fuel economy and increase low end pickup BUT and its a BIG BUT you loose loads of torque after about 4000 rpm and dont seem to go anywhere. Personally i really wouldnt bother.

Decatting Your Motor
Well all I can say about this is do it. Im not sure what difference it would make if you had a standard exhaust but i have a full system and putting the cat back on for MOT was depressing. At the moment we can't legitimatly put are cars through the mot test without one even if its an early J. However, there is one way to get your car through an mot without a cat even if its not an early one. Simply write a reciept saying that you purchased an engine from a scrap yard and the year of the engine is 1991. The mot tester can then only give your car a pre-cat test and it will pass.

Exhaust Manifolds
Known as Headers in the states. These are a greate mod but ive yet to find anywhere in the Uk who does them. I got mine imported from the states. They are 2.5" My only advice to anyone who gets some is be prepared to mod them as mine didnt fit very well at all. One over thing. Make sure your current exhaust fits perfectly as these usually dont have a flexi joint which can make fitting even more interesting. Definatly an increase in power and torque though.

FSE Power Booste Valve
Well to be honest I was a little disapointed at first with this but having decatted my car you can feel the difference. With the decat the car will happily pull off the clock but with the fse boost valve connected it seems to want to be there all the time. Just one thing it does use more fuel, but the car has more torque top end and just wants to keep pulling.
FSE dont list the Valve as fitting the MX-6 but the Probe one fits. Part No. VK-384-TOY1-H and is £98 + VAT

Fuel Rail Mod
Quite a few ppl on the other forums have done this. It does make a difference and lets face it its a FREE mod (dont get many of these) so you might aswell. Ive found you do feel a difference but its really only at the top of the rpm (especially in 5th).
Follow this link for the how to guide: http://www.rs-productions.com/RSP_Mo.../banjobolt.htm

Throttle Body By-Pass
Ive done this now and found it does make a difference. This mod simply by-passes the throttle body of coolant. This is meant to be for those silly cold mornings inorder to help warm the engine up a little. In reality its rarely that cold in this country and even when it is our engines run fine without it. The bonus to not running coolant through the throttle body is the intake air is cooler and denser. Again this is a FREE MOD!!! just simply follow the pipe from the back head to the throttle body and recoonect it to the egr valve or if you have a j-spec to the thermostat.

Induction Kits
The two main options in the UK are Pipercross and K&N. Both do kits but again list them for the probe not the MX-6. They do make a difference top end and make an impressive induction note. However, because our engines get hot id suggest trying to get a CAI from america or make your own. I have a Green Universal Filter (cause i get good discounts and they are ace).

Phenolic Intake Manifol Thermal Insulators
Ok having been to nearly every probe and MX-6 forum ive heard someone say something about Intake Manifold Spacers. While a good idea I wasnt convinced it would make a huge difference. However, my fuel economy has gone up slightly but I can now see the need for a CAI or Custom CAI. Ive tested it with the standard air box and it seems to improve performance and marginally with the induction kit. Im hoping it will make more of a difference when I do my CAI at the end of the year. You can notice a difference and the Intake manifold is noticably cooler which is always a good thing. They werent to difficult to install but leave yourself the day incase you start to have problems. An interesting mod and well worth doing if you have to remove your inlet manifold as you dont need gaskets!!!
http://home.san.rr.com/scmorgan/spacers/

Stage 1 Clutch
Well I was forced into changing mine after the spiget baring callapsed. The reason I went for an uprated clutch is because are stock clutch was designed for the 2.0l and isnt really upto it especially if you want to make serious performance mods. The stage 1 Clutch isnt what I would class as a race clutch but is noticeably different. I nolonger get clutch slip at all when trying to drag off the lights and the feel is slightly heavier. If you have to replace your clutch beaware it might be worth taking the uprated option.

MX-3 Flywheel
If your either changing your gear box or changing your clutch you might want to consider this mod. Its probably the easiest way of fitting a lighter flywheel to our cars. Its very easy to change while either changing your gearbox or clutch. It makes a slight difference to performance and seems to pull better through the gears and be far happier to rev.

Speed Limiter - J-Spec's Only
If you have a J-Spec unlike the UK Cars your speed is restricted by the ecu to 117mph. There are lots of stories about if you change the clocks to uk ones then the limiter wont work but this isn't true (trust me). The Easiest way round this is to locate the ecu (its under the stereo) and to cut the green wire with the red stripe. However, this does cause an over fueling problem when you let off. Other than this you could fit a Uk Spec ecu and vaf (but you would loose power and you may experiance problems as it looks for the egr valve) or even have the ecu remapped however, ive found a rather cheaper option to this. If you remove the throttle pedal fit a push to make microswitch (you will need to make a bracket and fit it) so that it makes the connection only when the throttle isnt depressed. Now link this through the green wire with a red strip and ever time the throttle is depressed it removes the limiter but when you back off it wont over fuel. It wont cause a fault code either unlike just cutting the wire.

J-Spec stuff
ECU and Vaf
The easiest thing to fit off the J-Spec engine to a UK car is the Vaf unit (or one off an mx3 v6) and the ecu. This is like giving yourself a chipped ecu. It is possible to fit either ecu (manual or auto) to a manual uk car but if you are fitting it to an auto you need one from an auto. These are rather rare. They have different VRIS opening stages and the rev limiter is set higher. It also doesnt have any control for the egr valve so this will stay closed. But thats a good thing as you loose power when its working anyway.

J-Spec Inlet manifold (Heads and Cams)
You can fit the J-Spec inlet manifold to the uk engine but be prepared to have to port the head a bit to get the inlet ports to match. If at all possible get a set of j-spec heads and cams. The j-spec heads have better ports and flow and also have larger inlet lifters and valve springs. The J-Spec cams are also different. The exhaust cams are exactly the same but the inlet are higher lift and have a longer duration helping your motor breathe.

J-Spec Engine Block
If your lucky enough to find an intact J-Spec block in good condition and you have no intention of fitting nos or forced induction snap it up as these have flat top high compression pistons.
UK compression ratio 9.2:1
J-Spec 10:1

Suspension and Handling
StrutBraces
Ok it might not be the most obvious mod but if you drive your six quick and spend a lot of time attacking bends you might want to concider fitting a front strutbrace even if you have standard suspension. I fitted mine before i fitted Mazda Speed Adj. and found that it didnt wonder at high speeds (i mean silly quick) and round the bends it was more positive. The rear strut brace wasn't as noticeable but still made a small difference.

Only one problem. They dont fit J-Specs without modification nor do they fit if you fit intake manifold spacers.
I will try and keep this updated as I add more.

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With regards to the clutch, the 2.5 is the same as the 2.0, but has a different pressure plate with a higher clamping force. nevertheless, it's still not up to the job when driven hard and overheats too quickly.

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Are EBC Green Stuff brake pads any good? Some garage suggested that I would go through loads of disks using them. Is this true? I thought the green or the red was supposed to be kind and gentle to your disks?

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EBC green stuff are recommended.. better stopping, less dust.

Fuel pump max pressure (static) 92 psi, 6.5 bar.. normal working pressure (flowing) is 39 - 45 psi, 2.7 - 3.2 bar.
Regulator is set to 30 - 36 psi, 2.1 - 2.6 bar.
injected volume 48cc - 56cc in 15 secs.

Nothing listed for flowrate of pump.

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And don't rip your disks to pieces

cruisemad, how did you decat your car, was it that your zorst had the replacement section or did you have to get a separate part? Also what zorst system/s would you recommend for our motors?
Cost?

What strut brace did you say you have on the front in the end? How much do they cost?

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The decat I made as a seperate direct replacement. Might be able to do some more in the future but will have to weigh it all up again if someone wants one.
As for what id recomend well Ive got a Full Stainless Power Flow Custom Made exhaust which sounds sweet and gives a bit extra pull (especially with the decat) and has a Lifetime Warenty. Power Flow centers are accross the UK and will do whatever you want (Including a decat if you talked to them nice enough).

And Finally my strut Brace. Well Ive got Sparco Front and Rear strut Braces. Id recomend doing the front but the rear is a pain cause its the universal one which i replaced the ends for custom made ones to fit the car. The front I think is about £70 but not sure cause i got mine at trade.

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I have just been to Motorsport world web site and found they list an FSE for a MX5 V6 hatch. Now unless I was looking the other way when Mazda made that model I assume they mean MX6. It does have the same code number 'VK384TOY1H' so that must be it. I also assume 626 (2ltr plus GT) fitment from 93 although it says 95.

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yep it will fit. I spoke to FSE and they said it didnt fit the MX6 but it did.

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Brakes

I have spent probably around 2 hours in total discussing brake options with EBC's technical guys.

Their opinion is that is u have standard front discs, then go green all the way around. If u have grooved front discs, it depends how u drive.

As our car is a bit heavier than most, the case for red stuffs is a bit stronger.

If u drive at over 80% for a lot of the time, like me, Cruise, or Stuart, then they don't hesitate to recommend Reds all around.

That said, the local Ferrari garage that I've been visiting to plan my next secret mod swear by Tarox discs. Haven't discussed pads yet, but they also make the point that 4-pot calipers are more than enough.

According to them, the only advantage to a big brake conversion is the basic physics that the disc is being gripped further away from the wheel centre, therefore a greater net stopping effect.

track days

EBC were quite apologetic that they don't make blue or yellow stuff pads for our car. They say that for a serious track day, take along three or four sets of red stuff pads, and be prepared for regular changes. They quoted Castle Combe as one of the most demanding tracks. That said, they will custom make a set of blue stuff, their recommended grade for our car on the track for around £85 a pair.

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Simon - I have to agree with ferrari on this one. Ive heard some really naff reports about ebc discs ( cruise managed to crack his from memory, and JDB managed to make his unusable inside 4 months ! ) Tarox definatley have a better rep and seem a more proffessional outfit.

As for pads i believe tarox offer pads aswell ? Either way standard rears are perfectly acceptible as most of the breaking is done by the fronts.

4 Pot calipers are fine - theyll sting you price wise but a worthy mod. Big disc kits offer increased cooling above anything else ( imho ) and the cooler the disc the better the brakeing surface.

As for purchasing said items the Big disc conversion will set you back something under a grand, tarox discs and pads ( front ) id guess about 200, 4 pot calipers - urm never found any for standard fitment... and personally i wouldnt use ebc discs .... pads seem ok though ...

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My personal opinion is the green stuff pads are ok but wear far to quickly. The Disks are c**p!!! I managed to crack mine in about 12 months. As a result im on standard warped disks!!! Cant afford a new set yet. Grrrrr.

Ive used the new Mintex M1144a Compound pad and apart from it being a little expensive was wearing loads better, improved braking and they did front and rear. Think i paid £105 for the set but that was as a favour.

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Updates...

Been meaning to do this for ages. Probably got some more to add but i will do that later. Look at first post. /\

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I had my full stainless with de-cat made at power flow and it gives a good increase in power and sounds sweet. MOT can be a problem.



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The decat I made as a seperate direct replacement. Might be able to do some more in the future but will have to weigh it all up again if someone wants one.
As for what id recomend well Ive got a Full Stainless Power Flow Custom Made exhaust which sounds sweet and gives a bit extra pull (especially with the decat) and has a Lifetime Warenty. Power Flow centers are accross the UK and will do whatever you want (Including a decat if you talked to them nice enough).

And Finally my strut Brace. Well Ive got Sparco Front and Rear strut Braces. Id recomend doing the front but the rear is a pain cause its the universal one which i replaced the ends for custom made ones to fit the c...ar. The front I think is about £70 but not sure cause i got mine at trade.
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Full stainless? Did they make the exhaust manifold too? How much did that cost? Might be cheaper than importing an american header.

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