Subaru WRX STi vs. Chevrolet Corvette C5

[1993-LS-5spd]

I was comparing the STi vs. the C5. The 0-30/40/50/... times are very similar for "hard launch," however under a "soft launch" the corvette has much quicker times.
http://www.car-videos.com/performanc...D1=169&ID2=106 (If you hit this link, you'll see that the site has taken out separate soft launch and hard launch times. And replaced two separate times with one time. Maybe they didnt think times for both launches was necessary.)

Does anyone know exactly what the difference is between these two launches? My only guess is that the hard lauch is a launch with the engine revved up & the soft launch starts from idle. I found these an interesting pair to compare as I was thinking, "Wow the WRX Sti can keep up with a corvette, with an engine have the size." But I guess who cares how big the engine is when they both get the same gas mileage (19/28 for the C5, 20/27 for the STi). I suppose on one hand the STi is AWD, is more easily modifiable, & costs 5-10 grand less and seats more than two. But on the other hand, the C5 looks so much better.

http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/noframes/17349.shtml
http://www.modernracer.com/subaruimprezawrxsti.html

[SilverLS]

who cares that the engine in the corvette is twice the size did you say? Well i do.. its chevy crap, how can a 5.7L engine make so little power? The bottom line is the car sucks, it comes so souped up from the factory there is almost nothing that can be done to get more power.. the WRX on the other hand has alot of potential power waiting to be tapped and its not gonna cost your 10 grand to do it...
Can you say half the price for 1/3 engine size and half the hp. but more speed and drivability?? bottom line is anyone who buys a corvette over a wrx, 3000gt vr-4, Supra TT, 300ZX, NSX, is dumb. All of the cars i named get close to or better performance out of smaller engines in more useable better quality funner to drive better looking vehicles for around the same price... its just a fact that american cant make good engines, or cars bottom line!

and remember, every car that competes with american cars here is acutally even faster in Japan.. So when a 5.0L mustang beats a Integra GSR by 1 car length here, it is racing a degraded version of the car, and would get destroyed by that same 1.8L Jap spec engine.. or same thing with our cars, as most of your know!

[Rick]

Someone has never watched NMRA or NHRA Pro Stock...

[GTSMayhem6]

haha im sorry but i have to laugh...you just said that corvettes suck? hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, and did you say you cant modify them? lol do you know how fast a vette is when you turbo it or supercharge it? well ligenfelter does so why dont yuo check them out sometime.

[Guido]

Originally posted by GTSMayhem6
haha im sorry but i have to laugh...you just said that corvettes suck? hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, and did you say you cant modify them? lol do you know how fast a vette is when you turbo it or supercharge it? well ligenfelter does so why dont yuo check them out sometime.

Nuff said...

Peace...

[NazRx]

haha im sorry but i have to laugh...you just said that corvettes suck? hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, and did you say you cant modify them? lol do you know how fast a vette is when you turbo it or supercharge it? well ligenfelter does so why dont yuo check them out sometime.

Isn't the Lingenfelter the one they had in Car and Driver that beat the Jet? That one was unbelievably fast, at first I thought it was a joke until I saw it had like 800+ hp

[GTSMayhem6]

beat a jet? holly molly lol i have never heard of that but if its true tahts insane...thats a very fast car, i would rather have a viper hennessey 800tt...but then again who has like 115 grand to spend on a car haha not meeeeeee

[1993-LS-5spd]

Originally posted by SilverLS
who cares that the engine in the corvette is twice the size did you say? Well i do.. its chevy crap, how can a 5.7L engine make so little power? The bottom line is the car sucks, it comes so souped up from the factory there is almost nothing that can be done to get more power.. the WRX on the other hand has alot of potential power waiting to be tapped and its not gonna cost your 10 grand to do it...
Can you say half the price for 1/3 engine size and half the hp. but more speed and drivability?? bottom line is anyone who buys a corvette over a wrx, 3000gt vr-4, Supra TT, 300ZX, NSX, is dumb. All of the cars i named get close to or better performance out of smaller engines in more useable better quality funner to drive better looking vehicles for around the same price... its just a fact that american cant make good engines, or cars bottom line!

and remember, every car that competes with american cars here is acutally even faster in Japan.. So when a 5.0L mustang beats a Integra GSR by 1 car length here, it is racing a degraded version of the car, and would get destroyed by that same 1.8L Jap spec engine.. or same thing with our cars, as most of your know!

I cant understand the hang up people have about displacement, especially if, on the highway, the C5 actually gets better fuel economy. Who cares if the STi is a four banger, if its a thirsty enough four banger to get worse gas mileage than a big 350. I care about fuel economy and how it performs. I dont particularly get to excited about vipers & lambourginis as they get 13mpg & like 9 mpg respectively. The corvette, on the other hand, goes twice as far on a gallon of gas and is near in performance to these super cars, and it costs a whole lot less. You say the wrx has more speed than the corvette? Well, the corvette has a top speed of 175 and the STi has 149 mph. Although 149 mph is a good speed it isnt better than 175 mph, I would say.
Seeing as how they dont sell any of those cars you listed anymore, other than the wrx & the nsx, I'm calling those picks out as invalid. As far as the nsx,(I like the nsx, but I feel like I am being asked to defend the corvette here) it is a sweet ride, and may be superior to the corvette in a few ways, but last time I checked they cost $95,000. Thats what I call dumb. And as far as the WRX goes ( again, I like the wrx alot), the thing is straight up ugly.
And all of these cars are more fun to drive than a corvette, you say. Wow, I would love to have been able to drive all of these great cars, what sort of job or financial situation has given you the oportunity to get to drive all of these cars. I am not a GM man, never have been. But I like to judge my cars on a car by car base, rather than assuming it is crap due to the country it was engineered in.

[626butnotforlong]

Corvette cant by mods SilverLS you tell that for a 5.7L V8 the power is little. So imagine how under devellop is the engine.
take the time to check this
Zekes

ok I dont like american car, but I got to admit nothing can pass a well mods american V8

[SilverLS]

Originally posted by GTSMayhem6
haha im sorry but i have to laugh...you just said that corvettes suck? hahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, and did you say you cant modify them? lol do you know how fast a vette is when you turbo it or supercharge it? well ligenfelter does so why dont yuo check them out sometime.

yeah you can put a turbo/supercharger on any car.. other than that the vette has so much **** done to it just to get that 405 hp out of a 5.7L because its a ****ty engine made by a ****ty company. Just imagine super/turbo charging an NSX buddy, its a 6cylinder 3.2L engine and that thing would run way more horse and torque than a corvette. everyone knows that the engine sucks.. if honda made a 5.7L engine it would have over 500 horse.. but they dont because they can make a 6 cylinder faster than the best american 8 cylinder.. and when acura comes out with their 8 cylinder nsx it will put every V-8 american to shame!

[SilverLS]

Originally posted by NazRx
Isn't the Lingenfelter the one they had in Car and Driver that beat the Jet? That one was unbelievably fast, at first I thought it was a joke until I saw it had like 800+ hp

In case you didnt know, jets were designed for speed in the air not on the ground.. there are lots of cars that can beat jets, its not about what it beats.. its about how big the engine is and how little horse it has and how slow it is..

[SilverLS]

Originally posted by GTSMayhem6
beat a jet? holly molly lol i have never heard of that but if its true tahts insane...thats a very fast car, i would rather have a viper hennessey 800tt...but then again who has like 115 grand to spend on a car haha not meeeeeee

yeah... viper is way ****tier than corvette, viper has to be the biggest crap in the world.. it has the worst engine.. 8.3L V-10, what kinda crap is that, and it makes what 450hp.. LOL
Sure its fast.. but all they did was drop a massive engine into a ****ty car..
once again the v-8 nsx will be a way better car than this.. do you realize how much funner it is to drive a good quality jap car? If you have ever driven a type R or S2000 or RSX type S, there would be no argument about how much beter it is to drive a fast car with a small engine..

[SilverLS]

Originally posted by 1993-LS-5spd


I cant understand the hang up people have about displacement, especially if, on the highway, the C5 actually gets better fuel economy. Who cares if the STi is a four banger, if its a thirsty enough four banger to get worse gas mileage than a big 350. I care about fuel economy and how it performs. I dont particularly get to excited about vipers & lambourginis as they get 13mpg & like 9 mpg respectively. The corvette, on the other hand, goes twice as far on a gallon of gas and is near in performance to these super cars, and it costs a whole lot less. You say the wrx has more speed than the corvette? Well, the corvette has a top speed of 175 and the STi has 149 mph. Although 149 mph is a good speed it isnt better than 175 mph, I would say.
Seeing as how they dont sell any of those cars you listed anymore, other than the wrx & the nsx, I'm calling those picks out as invalid. As far as the nsx,(I like the nsx, but I feel like I am being asked to defend the corvette here) it is a sweet ride, and may be superior to the corvette in a few ways, but last time I checked they cost $95,000. Thats what I call dumb. And as far as the WRX goes ( again, I like the wrx alot), the thing is straight up ugly.
And all of these cars are more fun to drive than a corvette, you say. Wow, I would love to have been able to drive all of these great cars, what sort of job or financial situation has given you the oportunity to get to drive all of these cars. I am not a GM man, never have been. But I like to judge my cars on a car by car base, rather than assuming it is crap due to the country it was engineered in.

Well its hard not to judge on where its built and who builds it when everything built by Chrysler, Ford, GM, is crap.. When was the last time any of those companies released a 4 banger with decent hp and reliability? They havent, chevy came close with the beretta back in the day.. but the engine kept breakin down so they had to discontinue it.. and now they have a 2.4L (huge four cylinder) with absolutely no horsepower or quality and it is also the worst sounding engine i have ever heard..
I used to like american , then i saw the light.. Tail lights that is, of a stock gsr (1.8L) passing me in my mom's neon r/t (2.0L souped up) and i thought, why didnt i wini have a bigger engine and lighter car, oh its because american cant make a good engine..


Lets end this right here..
Name an american 4 cylinder that you think is good
I will name an import w/smaller displacement that can beat it stock, and destroy it even more if they both do the same mods..

Then lets try it again with 6 cylinder cars..

and we will leave V-8's in their own world for now since foreign cars have yet to require a v-8 engine in order to be faster than american cars.. hondas building the v-8 nsx just to prove all the people who think they cant build a good V-8 wrong...

[GTSMayhem6]

ok silver you arent worth my time...die you retard of the car society...die

[1993-LS-5spd]

Why people get such a rush out of small displacement hp, I will never know. Give me a reason as to why I should care the slightest as to whether my car has a I4 or a V8. Only one I can think of is that a V8 will suck a lot more gas, so it is obviously less efficient. Oh wait, we already went over this. The C5 gets nearly identical mpg to the STi. ( err, i hate bashing on the STi, cause i'm actually a big fan) Oh yeah, a V8 will be heavier, so it wont perform as well. Also not true, nearly identical 0-60 and 1/4 mile times. What about grip? .89 vs .93 lateral g's for the STi & C5 respectively.


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