595kW twin turbo KL V6! - Page 2

**ODIN** · 12-12-02, 16:04

That is one mean setup!

**Caleb-TXFIVE** · 12-12-02, 21:25

Awesome's not the word!!!

I just read the entire article, damn that web address was well spotted Wes!

They say they cut several sets of heads open so they could see how much they could port them - these guys must have some cool info to share

They also say (unfortunately), that it "spat out a crazy 595Kw on 1.9 bar, but the motor just can't handle any more power, so the team is looking into an alternative powerplant."

Does this mean i can buy the KL?

haha

Caleb.

**gavin** · 12-12-02, 21:28

Brutal, simply brutal(30+psi). Interesting head design. Quad cam, yet there are only two driven cams. Directly connected geared cams perhaps?

Gavin

**Baja Wes** · 12-12-02, 23:07

Gavin, your obviously not familiar with the KL engine. Yes it does have internal gears in the head. They did this to reduce the height of the engine. Pretty weird really.

I am just amazed that there is anything standard in a 800HP 2.5 litre motor. Sure is a different ball game to the VW motor's I was used to.

**UncoCow** · 12-13-02, 0:18

OK i still dont believe in God but there is a heaven!! that's it /me is moving to sydney!

**lex** · 12-13-02, 0:59

What the...Holy ****TTEEEEE!!!

**rodhog** · 12-13-02, 3:44

I opened mine today and have it scaned tonight hopefully up on Woo's server

Scans

Okay slowly I will put them up these two for now
untill I get back tonight
Sorry for low res (sorry if don't work I am very busy so I will try my best to get some up and working )
Page 1 315kB
Page 2 487kB
Page 3 461kB
Page 4 532kB
Page 5 694kB
Page 6 661kB
they will take time to come up so ifthey don't work straight up try agian.

Or the pdf version here 4306kB

**rodhog** · 12-13-02, 10:18

There all up all scans so get then and have a read.
If there are any articles or pcitures in mags you would like ot see give me a buzz and I will see if I can get it scanned.

**gavin** · 12-13-02, 14:05

Baja wes...thanks for clearing that up for me. Sounds like an interesting design. Youre right, I havent been fully versed in the workings of the KL(just a humble F2T pilot), but I'm trying to learn more about the newer car.

Gavin

**ToastiER** · 12-13-02, 15:07

Thanks rodhog, I am sure we all appreciate it, this is a great read and find.

MZDASPDR · 12-16-02, 10:30

Hey guys
have any of you called them to get some more info on that motor
Like what type of injectors and fuel there using?
and Why they decided to keep it a 2.5 ltr and not stroking it.

ANyone get more details on that motor?

**rodhog** · 12-16-02, 10:47

The thing is that being a AUS production well we like to keep things secret all the info you got from the Article is bascily the most you will get from them.
Mainly becuase the info is worth alot so it's kept secret. Plus they would not like the compatition to know either.

MZDASPDR · 12-16-02, 16:40

Tru
I can understand keeping some technical secrets

I just want to know why they kept the 2.5ltr bottom end instead of stroking it to a 2.8litre

From what they have done allready they could be 100hpwr stronger with their engineering.

Just wondering.

**timtx5** · 12-16-02, 19:11

I think you will find it is still a 2.5litre to comply with regulations. I know that in that series there is a lot of multipliers of capacity for multi-valve engines, and turbo's etc and there is a maximum capacity they can't exceed, which is something like 6 or 7 litres.

Im not sure on the figures, but I have read it before somewhere. That is the reason that many of the competitors run small block chev's, because they make the power and meet the capacity limit.

**ToastiER** · 12-16-02, 21:35

Somebody should contact them and try for details.

PS check my turbo VIDEO in the video post section.

12-12-02, 16:04	#16 (permalink)
ODIN Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Canberra, Australia Age: 29 iTrader: (0)	That is one mean setup!
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12-12-02, 21:25	#17 (permalink)
Caleb-TXFIVE Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Torquay, Victoria, Australia Age: 31 iTrader: (0)	Awesome's not the word!!! I just read the entire article, damn that web address was well spotted Wes! They say they cut several sets of heads open so they could see how much they could port them - these guys must have some cool info to share They also say (unfortunately), that it "spat out a crazy 595Kw on 1.9 bar, but the motor just can't handle any more power, so the team is looking into an alternative powerplant." Does this mean i can buy the KL? haha Caleb.
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12-12-02, 21:28	#18 (permalink)
gavin Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: santa cruz.ca iTrader: (1)	Brutal, simply brutal(30+psi). Interesting head design. Quad cam, yet there are only two driven cams. Directly connected geared cams perhaps? Gavin Last edited by gavin : 12-12-02 at 21:30.

12-12-02, 23:07	#19 (permalink)
Baja Wes Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Brisbane, QLD, Australia Age: 30 iTrader: (0)	Gavin, your obviously not familiar with the KL engine. Yes it does have internal gears in the head. They did this to reduce the height of the engine. Pretty weird really. I am just amazed that there is anything standard in a 800HP 2.5 litre motor. Sure is a different ball game to the VW motor's I was used to.
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12-13-02, 3:44	#22 (permalink)
rodhog Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: LAKEMBA Sydney Australia, Australia iTrader: (1)	I opened mine today and have it scaned tonight hopefully up on Woo's server Scans Okay slowly I will put them up these two for now untill I get back tonight Sorry for low res (sorry if don't work I am very busy so I will try my best to get some up and working ) Page 1 315kB Page 2 487kB Page 3 461kB Page 4 532kB Page 5 694kB Page 6 661kB they will take time to come up so ifthey don't work straight up try agian. Or the pdf version here 4306kB Last edited by Woo : 12-13-02 at 10:16.
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12-13-02, 0:18	#20 (permalink)
UncoCow Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Melbourne iTrader: (0)	OK i still dont believe in God but there is a heaven!! that's it /me is moving to sydney!

12-13-02, 0:59	#21 (permalink)
lex Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: /dev/null iTrader: (0)	What the...Holy ****TTEEEEE!!!

12-13-02, 10:18	#23 (permalink)
rodhog Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: LAKEMBA Sydney Australia, Australia iTrader: (1)	There all up all scans so get then and have a read. If there are any articles or pcitures in mags you would like ot see give me a buzz and I will see if I can get it scanned.
	RIP WAGON 626 GV 1023 7 seat auto 10-5-05. RIP BA-ASTINA 323 V6 -KF P-plate victim 2-9-07 FORD TELSTAR TX-5 TURBO, 80's ICON RIP 01-07-07 REBORN WAGON -MAN 28-07-07 - A NEW START I am STILL addicted to Porn. "MXSIX" out

12-13-02, 14:05	#24 (permalink)
gavin Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: santa cruz.ca iTrader: (1)	Baja wes...thanks for clearing that up for me. Sounds like an interesting design. Youre right, I havent been fully versed in the workings of the KL(just a humble F2T pilot), but I'm trying to learn more about the newer car. Gavin

12-13-02, 15:07	#25 (permalink)
ToastiER Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: S'Toon, SK, Canada, Canada Age: 33 iTrader: (0)	Thanks rodhog, I am sure we all appreciate it, this is a great read and find.
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12-16-02, 10:30	#26 (permalink)
MZDASPDR Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Merritt Island, FL, FL, USA Age: 29 iTrader: (0)	Hey guys have any of you called them to get some more info on that motor Like what type of injectors and fuel there using? and Why they decided to keep it a 2.5 ltr and not stroking it. ANyone get more details on that motor?
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12-16-02, 10:47	#27 (permalink)
rodhog Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: LAKEMBA Sydney Australia, Australia iTrader: (1)	The thing is that being a AUS production well we like to keep things secret all the info you got from the Article is bascily the most you will get from them. Mainly becuase the info is worth alot so it's kept secret. Plus they would not like the compatition to know either.
	RIP WAGON 626 GV 1023 7 seat auto 10-5-05. RIP BA-ASTINA 323 V6 -KF P-plate victim 2-9-07 FORD TELSTAR TX-5 TURBO, 80's ICON RIP 01-07-07 REBORN WAGON -MAN 28-07-07 - A NEW START I am STILL addicted to Porn. "MXSIX" out

12-16-02, 16:40	#28 (permalink)
MZDASPDR Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Merritt Island, FL, FL, USA Age: 29 iTrader: (0)	Tru I can understand keeping some technical secrets I just want to know why they kept the 2.5ltr bottom end instead of stroking it to a 2.8litre From what they have done allready they could be 100hpwr stronger with their engineering. Just wondering.
	93 LS - 5spd KLZE (TOTALED!!) Erebuni Style 44/Mazdaspeed http://members.cardomain.com/mzdaspdr GONE TO TURBO- MR2 http://www.myspace.com/keneff79 http://www.myspace.com/HUXRACING

12-16-02, 19:11	#29 (permalink)
timtx5 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Maryborough (1/10 the size of Townsville), Australia Age: 25 iTrader: (0)	I think you will find it is still a 2.5litre to comply with regulations. I know that in that series there is a lot of multipliers of capacity for multi-valve engines, and turbo's etc and there is a maximum capacity they can't exceed, which is something like 6 or 7 litres. Im not sure on the figures, but I have read it before somewhere. That is the reason that many of the competitors run small block chev's, because they make the power and meet the capacity limit.
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12-16-02, 21:35	#30 (permalink)
ToastiER Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: S'Toon, SK, Canada, Canada Age: 33 iTrader: (0)	Somebody should contact them and try for details. PS check my turbo VIDEO in the video post section.
	1993 MX-6 KLZE V6 - N2O