Forced Induction Anyone?

[fredio54]

Originally Posted by sik_turk

JB Hi-Fi - Car Audio
Thats where I got it from, no links to products. I used to work at Lifesstyle like I said, they charge about $60 a metre retail for 0 gauge audio cable(ladi da Rockford brand), looks exactly like what I bought for $15 a metre. Jaycar had 2 gauge, it wasnt pretty, plain black, for like $13 a metre.

see, $8nz for the welding ground cable of the same size ;-)

its much more stiff though, and difficult to route, so may not have been suitable for your purposes anyway. however, you can also get 35mm and 25mm cable from them, and thats stuff is flexible enough. the red piece in my pics is one of those sizes i forget what.

And yer like you said Fredio, fuel pump, Megasquirt, alternator and some headlights this wire should be fine. My new battery kicks ass as well, its got a charge light indicator on it....flashy .

provided the heat/oil/etc stays away from it. usually the audio stuff isnt good with chemicals and high temperatures.

Oh yer and Fredio, if you saw my setup, you will see that it works, but is by no means pretty. Mismatched colour electric tape, big clamps etc. And I used 4 gauge for the ground from battery, only has to travel about 15 cm and saves me buying another fat expensive terminal.

correct, the length is critical to performance, and "4guage" is more than capable of handling that current from a fire point of view. ie, its ok with 180 - 210amps continuous depending on where you bought it.

the "60 amp" terminals that i used cost about 60cents each, and the cheap dse battery terminals about $2 each on staff price a while back. i think 5 or 10 was retail, but i cant remember.

i would recommend a guage on your fuel rail to see if its doing the job correctly or not. if there is a rise in pressure swapping pumps, then its not coping correctly, and you will lose pressure as the fuel demand of the engine increases, and flow through the reg decreases. my reasoning with going straight to a $50 chinese knock of fpr was that it had the guage on it, and if that was the only part i used, then i was sweet. as it happens, my "ching chong meow" (as the totally ignorant american rednecks on hmt would say) fpr works very well indeed.

fred.

[Turk]

Yer I know the insulation isnt going to be good with heat but it is very away from anything hot and nothing will spill on it. . that is very cheap for those terminals, though I have heard that living in NZ is alot cheaper and better than in AUS. That is why you kiwis work here make money then go back to NZ to spend it .

Ive got a malpassi AFPR and gauge on its way, just waiting to get delivered . And i ended up getting the Rb25 injectors for $110 AUS shipped. Bargain

[fredio54]

housing in ozzy is in general a lot cheaper, and day to day its similar, but wages in oz are better. i dont like the heat and bitey stuff, so i'll stick with nz. though, if i had to pick a second country, it would be oz by leaps and bounds. the accents arent that bad, and all the ozzys i met in ozzy were really good people. though, i've met a few wanker ozzys in nz... but i guaruntee there are wanker kiwis floating around in ozzy too!!! the cable was just retail plus a discount for looking scruffy in overalls and winding up the yarpy behind the counter. the terminals are no more than a buck or two each not through my family friend sparky. through him though, yes, they are cheap. i keep a bunch of terminals of all sorts on hand for such occasions. those included.

these 6 cases cost about 300nz all together, but retailed for around 2knz if you just walked into a dse...

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you could say that i spent a lot there while i was working there :

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i got the job soley for the discount, and had a personal policy to spend 50% of the money i earned there also. note the box full at the end of the bed.

i also have just a few components ;-)

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thats half of them :-)

staff price is always a winner. esp if you dont have to work there also!

fred.

[NiN^_^NiN]

Australia has the most livable cities in the world canada second

Also Melbourne is #2 on the list of most livable cities in the world Vancover (sp?) is first
Perth is 4th then 6 was sydney i think

[Turk]

I thought housing in NZ was way cheaper. Average home in Australia is like 450k or something now (average as in real average as in average wage is 48k but not really). In Sydney average might even be abit higher, it costs way so much it is stupid really, Melbourne too.

Ive got a mate that I worked with from NZ and he comes to Australia just to work because pay is good and he fully owns like 4 houses in NZ and said that it would be impossible to do in Australia. Not bad for a labourer, works 20 hour days though :/.

He just came back from working in England as well because he said pay there is crazy high, as well as the cost of living.

Nin I wonder how old those figures of livability are. It is near impossible for a young person to try to buy there own home on a mortgage even when making average or above average wage.

[NiN^_^NiN]

The figures are recent 2006 in fact
Actually Melbourne use to be #1 in 2004 and 2005 they do it each year the main requirments they test are "Crime Rate, Threat from instability or terrorism and a highly developed infrastructure"

Also the price of houses might have gone up quite abit so that could of affected the spot for melbourne i do hope the housing bubble bursts cause it's getting out of hand the prices they have

[Turk]

Sydney's property market is way slow right now, high interest rates and the boom from about 3 years ago as well and trully died. Hopefully another property boom happens in about 4-5 years, That is when I buy my house.

Anyways.....Turbo, Supercharger mx6 probe mazda etc etc

[NiN^_^NiN]

Oh well for news my frame for the supercharger is being built it's just a base to start off with and will be changed according to fitment

[Turk]

Originally Posted by NiN^_^NiN

Oh well for news my frame for the supercharger is being built it's just a base to start off with and will be changed according to fitment

Very good to hear man . I am so ready to install everything now. I have bought almost everything I need for my setup. Bored rails, Injectors, Megasquirt on there way here right now. Oil catch can gets shipped on friday. I cant even keep track of the [shizzle] I buy I know.

The only things I need to buy now are a Wideband 02 sensor with gauge, and a boost gauge. And I decided to tune it myself, what is the worst that can go wrong :P.

Nin I found it funny that we will probably finish our cars at similar times.

1 Mx6 ZE Turbo MTX Sydney
1 Probe DE Supercharge ATX. Melbourne

So similar, yet exact opposite .

[NiN^_^NiN]

Well cause ur got a ZE there is a high chance u could blow it up lol

I don't know when i will get it finished just so much work least the main part the shaft i don't have to redo much otherwise im makaing a whole new kit

I think u will get done before me Sik

[fredio54]

rich + retard,and work forward with good knock detection! you'll be sweet.

[Turk]

Yer I saw a knock detection kit or something arather at Jaycar electrnoics. Infact they got heaps of cool stuff there. Turbo timers for like $20, Electrnoic boost controllers for like $80 (doesnt come with solenoid). Anyone used them or is it a stretch to bet your cars life on there stuff.

Nin me getting my set up done relies on my turbo pipes to get here. They still havent been shipped yet the guy has been heaps busy working on another mx6.com members car.

I just got my bored fuel rails and connectors about 2 minutes ago. They looks sweet, Injectors will be here early next week so we will see how they fit . Just waiting on Megasquirt now.

Oh and if anyone needs a set of KL rails to get bored, and dont want theres sitting in a shop for 3 weeks. they can have my DE rails for free .

Quick question im sure Fredio can answer, if I tune my car at 5psi (wastegate), then up the boost to 7psi, I have to tune it again ay? It is just that i only want to tune it once, but I dont trust my turbosmart manual boost controller. I was planning on setting it to 8psi, tuning, then I know I am all set to remove the boost controller and drive around at 5psi untill I get a Greddy E-Booost.

[NiN^_^NiN]

Thats great news sik

I know a few of the 1st gen mx6's use jaycar controllers for boost and everything don't know if they got rid of them later on tho but the designs jaycar have are solid if they are up to our needs i don't know

[fredio54]

so long as you set up your ve and spark tables to extend as high as you would reasonably want to go, you can just tune upto the level that you need, and make the bins above that uber rich incase it should spike... then at worst you'll get a rich miss (reads lean on wbo2). provided you dont get that high though, the bins will not be used. a better approach would be to have the extra ones either the same as the last row, or better still, following the contour and extrapolated out up there.

so, provided your tables are big enough to start with, the only bits you need to touch are the new bits, the other bits tune wont change at all.

[Turk]

Fredio, I understand the concept and logic of what your saying, but hopefully once I get to play with MegaSquirt on the computer a bit more I will actually be able to put it to practice.

I am sure my questions will be neverending once I get tuning