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[rodhog]

Originally Posted by Cromax

Umm ... generation of electricity probably provides the bulk of our emissions, so ...

... the big question to ask is are you pro-nuclear? or anti-nuclear?

If you're really worried about the environment, I'd suggest it as being our only option at this point in time, as the only biproduct of power generation is steam ... and of course the processed waste product, but that can be stored in old uranium mines and kept for a day that we can re-process it for something else.

hmm nuclear if lucas heights get hit or lets face it we are so stupid we got Argentina to take up the contract to fix it up ? hmm how many nuclar power station and say Weapons of mass distruction have they done?
but yep when it goes due to shoody workmanship. I'm dead so IU say Nuke the place baby.

but what about the SUN vast land. WA is like perfect for the wind farmers
Roaring 40's powering them. A million and one ways.

think about it my house has solar hot water system - it's only side effect is on any day above 25 degress it gets very very very hot I mean if you turn it on 2nd degree burns. last over night for monring no worries . Now add on to that other wasted space some Solar pannels and feed what I don't use back into the grid during the day. Think about how much we waste during the day powering things might be small engery for some like clocks etc
but in my house during the day the plasmas on - in fact it's only off betwen 4am to about 9am then 3 pm to 5 pm. everyother time it's off same can be said for A/C during summer etc.
Think about it you repower the grid you should get power have used taken back so that your electricity bill would be small - of course they would not like the fact your bills like only $100. not like $700 or something.

[Chickebabe]

Originally Posted by BShark

Whoa! 899 pages???! How did this get so long?? and no, i'm not going to read thru it

Welcome,

And it got this long through a lot of hard work and a lot of putting off doing more important things (Uni, Work all that fun stuff)

Originally Posted by jmoore

i was at uni until 1am last night, then i had to get up at 6 this morning and head back there

Why would you have to be there til 1?

[91turbo666]

Originally Posted by rodhog

hmm nuclear if lucas heights get hit or lets face it we are so stupid we got Argentina to take up the contract to fix it up ? hmm how many nuclar power station and say Weapons of mass distruction have they done?
but yep when it goes due to shoody workmanship. I'm dead so IU say Nuke the place baby.

but what about the SUN vast land. WA is like perfect for the wind farmers
Roaring 40's powering them. A million and one ways.

think about it my house has solar hot water system - it's only side effect is on any day above 25 degress it gets very very very hot I mean if you turn it on 2nd degree burns. last over night for monring no worries . Now add on to that other wasted space some Solar pannels and feed what I don't use back into the grid during the day. Think about how much we waste during the day powering things might be small engery for some like clocks etc
but in my house during the day the plasmas on - in fact it's only off betwen 4am to about 9am then 3 pm to 5 pm. everyother time it's off same can be said for A/C during summer etc.
Think about it you repower the grid you should get power have used taken back so that your electricity bill would be small - of course they would not like the fact your bills like only $100. not like $700 or something.

when i lived on a farm we had one of those early 1900's woodstoves that acted as your stove, oven, house heater and water heater. our hot water was almost a pressure steam cleaner

thankfully all our pressure relief systems were functional. not like those dodgy houses that blew up...

but anyway i like nuclear power. its far more efficient than any other major source of energy in the world. aka burning fuel. any fuel. any burning. burning is not efficient.

as for natural power, hydro, solar, wind....well noones willing to spend the dollars on setting these systems up. businesses and governments only care how much money theyre making until the next financial year - or getting themselves re-elected.

nuclear power deserves the time and research. reactors arent like chernobyl anymore. there are many layers of safe guards to halt the fission if needs be. and even though the waste is radioactive, at least it can be contained, unlike any fossil fuels where the fumes go into the atmosphere

[Cromax]

Well chernobyl only happened because of dodgy russian engineering. It was to do with the RMBK design of the control rod & reactor design that the disaster occured.

They also think that it was attributed to the fact that the operators weren't really trained to work in an RMBK plant.

[Fitzyb]

It happened cause they were doing maintinace, didnt finish it, had a shift change, jammed a rod back in, had the same effect as jamming ur car back into first @ 150 kph *limiter limiter limiter *BANG**

[91turbo666]

Originally Posted by Cromax

Well chernobyl only happened because of dodgy russian engineering. It was to do with the RMBK design of the control rod & reactor design that the disaster occured.

They also think that it was attributed to the fact that the operators weren't really trained to work in an RMBK plant.

poorly funded....decades ago..

hell even the "rogue states" with the ex russian equipment do a better job of maintaining them.

the debate over nuclear power is far more political than environmental.

-nuclear power makes the world powers take notice

-nuclear power takes a chunk out of fossil fuel usage.

unsuprisingly america likes neither point

[infamous_t]

Originally Posted by 91turbo666

as for natural power, hydro, solar, wind....well noones willing to spend the dollars on setting these systems up. businesses and governments only care how much money theyre making until the next financial year - or getting themselves re-elected.

Actually quite alot of people are taking up solar, and to a lesser extent wind. I know this for a fact.

Also quite a few ppl take up standalone systems(as apposed to Gridfeed), because on some properties it can cost $10,000 or more to connect to the grid... even if it runs by your property(and you will still need to pay power bills every month!). So its cheaper to be selfseficient sometimes. The government offers several rebate schemes for solar, some of which offer up to half the systems cost back to the user. Some of the community banks also offer 'green loans' which make this an even better proposition.

Interesting fact: Rottnest island has a single wind generator that supplies 1/3 of its needs. Much better than the banks of stinky diesel gensets.

[Cromax]

There is no way you can use wind or solar power to provide what the bulk of a major city needs!

[AusTerror]

Australia would be really good for solar energy, just fill the desert with solar panels.

I read somewhere (can't find a link right now) that the earth only had about 20 years worth of radioactive material for reactors anyway so we can't all change to nuclear energy.

Geo-thermal is where it is at for australia. you drill two really deep holes next to each other, pump water down one, the water goes down to a hot area and comes up the other hole at steam to drive a turbine, then you condense the water (intercooler) and start again.

Apparently the east coast of australia has alot of ideal geo thermal enegy spots. You need a place that has lava or something hot under the ground that is big enough that pumping some water down there won't cool it too fast.

Again when I read this (on the ABC website I think) there was 5000 years worth of energy there or some similar stupid amount that we could extract.

But it is expensive to set up and won't happen until fossil fuels become to expensive.

But yeah australia will not have any trouble wiith power in the future. AND have have most of the earths uranium too.

Ofcourse we will be OK because we have a relatively small population.

[Fitzyb]

alot of places in europe run wind/solar power set ups, and it works quite well, there are even offshore wind towers as well in some places, the next big thing in that area is tidal powered, in places where there is big tidal movments you can use that to generate power, i belive they were thinking of setting one up somewhere up the coast in WA

[Cromax]

Originally Posted by AusTerror

Australia would be really good for solar energy, just fill the desert with solar panels.

I read somewhere (can't find a link right now) that the earth only had about 20 years worth of radioactive material for reactors anyway so we can't all change to nuclear energy.

Geo-thermal is where it is at for australia. you drill two really deep holes next to each other, pump water down one, the water goes down to a hot area and comes up the other hole at steam to drive a turbine, then you condense the water (intercooler) and start again.

Apparently the east coast of australia has alot of ideal geo thermal enegy spots. You need a place that has lava or something hot under the ground that is big enough that pumping some water down there won't cool it too fast.

Again when I read this (on the ABC website I think) there was 5000 years worth of energy there or some similar stupid amount that we could extract.

But it is expensive to set up and won't happen until fossil fuels become to expensive.

But yeah australia will not have any trouble wiith power in the future. AND have have most of the earths uranium too.

Ofcourse we will be OK because we have a relatively small population.

I'm talking about now, not later ... now!

Geothermal energy generation is speculation ...
... and besides, they'd most likely use seawater, so there'd be no point in using an "intercooler" as you suggested. They'd just flush it out like they do at torrens island in adelaide.

[91turbo666]

Originally Posted by AusTerror

I read somewhere (can't find a link right now) that the earth only had about 20 years worth of radioactive material for reactors anyway so we can't all change to nuclear energy.

running out of uranium is crazy talk.

http://www.americanenergyindependence.com/uranium.html

heres a bit of a read.

and most natural energy sources are small scale when you consider australia and the world at large. most of the baseline power in the world is fossil fuel driven.

smaller private entities might use natural energy, and the government might encourage it, but theyre not willing to foot the bill for making enough power to run the majority of the populations needs

[Fitzyb]

since its now sunday for me, id just like to note how highbrow the thread was yesterday, love it lol

[The MichelinMan]

my post for the day.........

whats news ppl?

[RdS]

Originally Posted by Fitzyb

since its now sunday for me, id just like to note how highbrow the thread was yesterday, love it lol

thats why i just stayed out of it