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It's been a LONG time since I've driven an N/A KL, and I imagine I would feel it to be extremely slow...btw, what did you end up doing about the belts, can't remember if you posted...
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just ran shorter belts. and used the smooth tensioner.


see i drove my friends 93PGT w/ CAI and cat back. mine seems slower than his.

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i cant believe mx 6 s weigh more than probes i always thought it was the other way around
Then you would have though right. The Mx6 and 626 4door (which weights only 50 or 60 lbs more the the mx6) are both lighter then the probe. The probe is more aerodynamic though.

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It looks like there is a lot more room on both sides of the block, easier to change the timing belt and run the air intake...

Is it slow all the way through the power band? or are you just missing the low end torque of the F2T.

Sometimes torque and horsepower can be confusing/hard to read, torque delivers sudden acceleration and pins you to your seat, Horsepower feels more gradual and with no sudden jumps in the band will feel slower then it actually is.

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I noticed two vacuum ports hooked to nothing. just open. the intake tube has a hole from the nitrous nozzle. i think the brake booster hose has cracks in it. i will also check my vris.. also the alignment is off pretty bad so when i get on it the tire vibration and squeels and shit. let me fix my problems and then get next to a 2g and see what happens.

OK when i pull out my dipstick my car shuts off. i pulled it out half way it sputtered then i pushed it back and it smoothed out.

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I would do a compression test on it just to see what sort of health the motor is in.....you can never tell with junkyard motors.

If someone has been running nitrous on it...there could be a few problems....nitrous is notorious for contributing to an early death for alot of motors.

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I would do a compression test on it just to see what sort of health the motor is in.....you can never tell with junkyard motors.

If someone has been running nitrous on it...there could be a few problems....nitrous is notorious for contributing to an early death for alot of motors.
I ran nitrous on it 75 shot never had any problems. i feels slower than when the engine was in my 96. the motor was swapped out with a 94 engine before i bought the car.

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OK i capped of the open vac ports. plugged up the hole in my intake tube. and wow the car pulls so much harder. car runs 100% better. i didn't think that would make that much of a difference.

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Is it slow all the way through the power band? or are you just missing the low end torque of the F2T.
an FE3 for sure, but the f2t is too jerky for how smooth the 2gens drive...not to say it wouldn't be an interesting swap, but I think this is a better fit, but an fe3 in a 2gen would be as good or better of a fit...

vacuum leaks can do alot of strange things, glad to see it got worked out, though
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As do ours, just the other (intermediate shaft) side.

I'm not saying you will have a problem, just stating it is not the standard mount point. If you have the rear inner mount (I don't remember on the 1g F2/F2T), the combination of both will probably be better assuming you haven't extremely stressed either to get them to line up without modification.
The mount style he used is identical to the MX3. This is FAR superior than the crap PGT/MX6 mount.

That's why that retarded tranny saver bracket was necessary. The way they did it from the factory was horrible and breaks the side of the case off in the PGT/MX6

The MX3 style (same as 1G) is the way to go. I NEVER broke a trans case, nor did any one else on the MX3 forums.

Furthermore, there are now many people swapping out the crap PGT crossmember and rear trans mount for the MX3 V6 mount for this very reason.

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That's a really cool project though, nice work.
How many hours would you estimate you have invested? I'm right around the 400 hour mark at this point with my Ranger....

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Well it took me three months. I worked on it almost everyday for 2-5 hours.

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Update:

Hey guys it has been a while since I have posted in here, but the car feels amazing. Bought a keyless remote awhile back. Programmed it. Works like a charm. I ended up taking off the PS headers and put the stock logs and y-pipe on. Sounds so much better. Throwout bearing went out and destroyed the input shaft. Bought a tranny from polarexpress, Duralast HP clutch from AutoZone and a Fidanza from dan san. I also did the MAF conversion. Still working on boost, but before I boost, my next big project is to put in A/C and heater. and then eventually wire up the factory boost gauge and VMM. I had removed the ducting and everything. So far I have wired up the HVAC controls to the blower motor assembly. I will posted pics. Since I am using a complete 96 harness I cant use the HVAC control because they wont fit in the dash, so I will have a separate circuit for this. When I install the ducts and everything back behind the dash. I will have to wire in the illumination and the clutch cycling switch. The wire from the switch to the comp. clutch is already ran through the factory '96 harness.
The a/c lines will be the hardest part. I have the factory 89 condensor, evap, and accum. I also have the line from the evap to the condensor, which is factory from the 89. I will need a line from the accum. to the compressor and from the compressor to the the cond. I will keep you updated on this.

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Yeah I am having fun modifying an a/c system at the moment.

A couple of things I have found in general, there are lines off different cars that are close enough to fit.

Also there are people in this country anyway who will make you a custom line.
So far I havent needed to use them....all you need to do is bend up a coat hanger into the shape of the hardline you need and they can make it up.

I would have though that you'd be able to more or less use the entire system off a 2G and just adapt to your 1G evaporator core. the 2G condenser is a close fit into the GD probably the same in the probe.

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Here is what I have so far. Not much, but this is pretty much all I need, minus the circuit for the HVAC controls.

I took the accumulator side of the discharge line from a 1G and

and the compressor side of the discharge line from a 2G.



Just have to save $$ to buy a new compressor, condensor, evap, accu, and orifice tube. This only thing I won't have though is a high side port. I'm sure I can manage without it.

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