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Hello all,

It has been a while since I have been here but here I am again. Yet again I need help but this time its bad.

Yesteday my car was working fine during the day. Then at night I wanted to go somewhere. I started up the engine and I could here a sort of buzzing noise coming from the engine. It sounded as if 2 metal would be rubbing each other.

I could not detect anthing from the outside but the noise came from the gearbox.

My dad said dont worry about it so I drove off. I knoticed that the gears would not change at the correct revs but on higher revs. After a while my revs where getting higher but my car was slowing down as if I was on netral. The car came to a complete stand still and the hold light was flashing. I switched off the engine for 2 minutes and then started it up again. The car started movied but when I had to break I couldnt start going again. So same thing again off and on but this time I had to do it several times and wait longer.

This morning I started the engine and when I was reversing it was jumpy but drive wouldnt work. That noise was still there. I can hear it when I'm on park, when I put it on neutral it stops but eventually starts again, on Drive and Rrevers its not so loud, you can hardly hear it.

I was thinking maybe its the cluches in the gearbox itself. Would I be correct? If not any ideas? I'm taking it to MAZDA tomorrow and I hope it would be covered by the waranty they gave me after I bought it of them.

Anything would help. Cheers every one.
George
 

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George

I take it you have checked the fluid levels in the box ?.

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if its a buzzing, jangling sort of noise then its possible the torque converter has gone west. this would explain increasing revs but no forward motion. if it is the torque converter its an engine and gearbox out job to replace. check your oil, as andy says, cos if its bands, then the oil will be burnt and brown possibly with bits of friction material in it.

do not drive the car anymore until you have worked out what is wrong, as either way you can make things worse.

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George you poor bugger :( :( Doh looks like the auto boxes are taking a down turn, Em as andy said check fluid levels, but also the link cable could be out of place, When my car came back the second time with a new(second hand) gearbox the cable was not right i took it for a test drive and the hold light kept flashing so it could be to do with the cable, Then as mike said torque converter, to be honest if it is a new or recon gearbox your looking at around £1000 mate to be honest, could be a good time to do your manual gearbox swap :)
But keep us informed as i say ive had my gearbox trouble for two months but hopefuly now it sorted!

So my advise take it to a gearbox specialist dont let any monkeys get there hands on it like the mistake i made :( :(
Get the AA or someone to tow you to a garage dont drive it as your ruin the gearbox even more and get a diagnosis on it!

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I have called mazda today and they will come and collect the car free of charge since it should be a warranty job. Once they do that they will drop off a car so I can drive around with.

The car is under waranty till August so it should be covered and be repaired for free. If they want to charge me then I will go ahead with the swap.

Unfortunatly I dont know how to check the fluid level since I dont know where its located. (I never got a manual with the car).
Where would the fluid be checked from?
Where would that connector be? The only connector I saw was under the airbox.

Well I had to remove my induction kit and put the original air box so they wont say that voids the warranty.

I should know within the next few days what is wrong with it and how much it will be if I need to pay. I will keep you guys posted and thanks for the info. Let me know about the above questiones.

Cheers
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The point is... it doesn't matter what is wrong... thank god it's under warranty is more important.

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Went to mazda last night and check the state of the car. They didnt get the time to have a look at it but from what I told them they recon that it cant be anything to do with the oil since its to suden and I would notic 8 liters of oil on my drive.

He said it looks like that either there is not enough presure getting to the hydrolics inside the gearbox or could be the torgue converter but said it is covered by warranty.

Thats one load of my mind.

They will know more today so I will let you guys know.
 

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Hi all,

got my car back yesterday (at last). Mazda had to send my car to a transmition specialist.

When I ask what was wrong with the gearbox the man there said "not sure, they didnt tell us. It was something inside the gearbox". :confused:

I think I knew that already myself that something inside the gearbox was wrong.

Anyway, the car is back and drives like a dream unline the fiesta they gave me for the time they were fixing my car. They gave me a 1.4 car that actually felt more like a 1.1. :D

Sorry guys I couldnt bring more info, but I will ask some one else at mazda to see if I can find out.
 

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Hmmm in a gearbox it could have been anything, Bands,torqueconverter,clutch plates etc etc

Glad you have it back, Well least you didnt have to pay out £1000 :( :)

Cheers for keeping us informed

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Its not unusual for a main dealer of any marque of car to pass this sort of work out. very few workshops employ an auto trans specialist. usually though, a complete report is furnished with the returned and repaired car. where i used to work, we used to do all the ford warranty work on what was then the new shape granada (scorpio). used to get loads of em.

it might be a good idea to try to find where the car was sent. and then find out what was done. otherwise you may just have a temp fix to get you past the warranty period, and then further trubbs later. ask now, and then go back to mazda if the work was indeed a temp job.

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Hi,

Thanks for the advice. I think that would be a good Idea too. I will give them a ring on monday or even visit them.

I should know what has been done to the car since its my car and also part of the service history incase I want to sell the car.

Maybe speak to there manager since he seems to know more of whats going on with my car then anyone else in there.

I'll keep you posted
 

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how to check automatic transmission fluid

I have an automatic MX-6, not a Xedos, but I suspect the powertrains are very similar.

The ATX fluid dipstick is on the right of the engine, to the right of, and behind the air filter.

You pull it out and back slightly to get it out. On mine, the dipstick has an orange top.

The Mazda dealer should be able to show you where it is. I don't know if there's a Haynes manual for the Xedos but the location should be in there too.

regards (from not too far away),

Ian Chequer
 

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At last the person who knows whats going on with mazdas was there.

He actually told me that my gearbox has been completely changed with a reconditioned one.

The fault was the oil pump within the gearbox causing all the metal to rub each other and wear down to the point where they cant hold the gears in place.

That gearbox has been taken out to be reconditioned and given to the next xedos who has a faulty gearbox.

Mine is running supperb now.

Also I changed the exhaust back box and pipe. Looks nice. Didnt come round putting my induction kit back in yet.

Cheers for all the help guys and hoped you had a merry xmas.

Happy new Year to all.
 

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glad all is sorted for you. one last tip.....................

the recon box you now have should have some warranty with it. good recons normally get 12 or 18 months tied to a limited milage. if you are lucky, the warranty for your new box will exceed the warranty you have on the car? if its the case, try to get it in writing. nice bit of extended peace of mind eh?

Mike
 
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