THe ignitor module is becoming very difficult to find separately.psmithmx said:
I last replaced my disty with a mazda reman for approx 250 bucks. Thats quickly becoming the only route.
-Garrett
THe ignitor module is becoming very difficult to find separately.psmithmx said:Does anyone know what the part number of the transistor inside the distributor is? The one that fails on the 93-94 models?
The original is a Mitsubishi, but a replacement part number will also do.
Any help would be greatly appreciated. Don't really want to take the distributor apart twice! (one time to get the number and the second to replace it)
Thank for the help.
I strongly disagree...skiingman said:THe ignitor module is becoming very difficult to find separately.
I last replaced my disty with a mazda reman for approx 250 bucks. Thats quickly becoming the only route.
-Garrett
I'm sorry, but you aren't going to get me to believe that there is not other transistor that has similar properties and could be used in this situation. Frankly if it was designed and choosen well in the first place it would not fail.DragonZealot said:The Mitsu # is M67580 if this is what you are looking for. But I don't think it is available.
Also it is not a regular transistor, it is an IGBT (isolated gate bipolar transistor) specifically designed for switch ignition signals.
DZ
I agree with you completely. But as to how expensive it would be in time and money to retrofit a disty, I doubt it would be worth it for most people.rylinkus said:I'm sorry, but you aren't going to get me to believe that there is not other transistor that has similar properties and could be used in this situation. Frankly if it was designed and choosen well in the first place it would not fail.
I've mentioned this before. And in the past I've taken flak for it. (Not sure if it was this board or not.) Either way it's one of those things that stuck in my mind. My friend managed to get a MUCH more robust power transistor for one of his project for 50 bucks. And I'm talking worlds away from the specs needed under the hood. I was thinknig that a 25 buck part could probably save some people a bit of cash. Plus it'd be something a bit different then others have done. I'm not saying this is an end all solution to this problem. Just stating that it certainly is an option. I mean, it is just a transistor. And regardless of what some people may say, A transistor is a transistor is a transistor. It's just a matter of specing out the right one, kind of like sizing a turbo.skiingman said:I agree with you completely. But as to how expensive it would be in time and money to retrofit a disty, I doubt it would be worth it for most people.
Like I said, the Mazda part is ~250 bucks.... Many people drive their mx6 daily, they dont have the skill/time/motivation to engineer a better solution. This is why I don't rebuild parts, I buy rebuilt parts with warranties....
I said nothing about engineering a new transitor solution. I merely said that the ignitor module does not appear to be available separately anymore. If you have info otherwise, the MX6 community would be glad to hear it.
-Garrett
I never said you can not get substitute. I just said you can not get the original Mitsu part. As far as getting substitute I have not seen the spec for that part so getting a substitute is a try-and-see game, if you can find an IGBT designed for automotive ignition application. Note this is a special application, not a consumer application so your local Radio Shack is not going to carry a substitute.rylinkus said:I'm sorry, but you aren't going to get me to believe that there is not other transistor that has similar properties and could be used in this situation. Frankly if it was designed and choosen well in the first place it would not fail.
If you think I was gonna walk to the local radio shack and get a part for my car you are sadly mistaken. I was think more along the lines of looking up various spec sheet online. Most companies leave all that info right there in PDF form for you to get. I didn't expect an something I could drive and get. (Though Umaine's engineering store may have something. You never know with them.) Either way it was just an idea.DragonZealot said:I never said you can not get substitute. I just said you can not get the original Mitsu part. As far as getting substitute I have not seen the spec for that part so getting a substitute is a try-and-see game, if you can find an IGBT designed for automotive ignition application. Note this is a special application, not a consumer application so your local Radio Shack is not going to carry a substitute.
One manufacturer I know that makes IGBT is International Rectifier. Let us know if you found one that works.
The ignitor that uses the Mitsu part is the improved one found in 95+. The original 93/94 ignitor is a sealed unit which uses a thick film integrated circuit. This is the one which fails pre-maturely. The thick film uses regular bipolar transistor which contributes to the high failure rate.
DZ
Yeah, it is easier to say than to get it done though. We can't even find the spec for the original one, leave alone matching it with a potential substitute. Good luck specing out the right one.rylinkus said:And regardless of what some people may say, A transistor is a transistor is a transistor. It's just a matter of specing out the right one, kind of like sizing a turbo.
You know, I'll excuse you for acting like I'm retarded since you don't know any better. I'm an electrical engineer. I do have a clue here. Sorry to disappoint. :shrug: I suppose it's people that are overly negative that kill alot of projects.DragonZealot said:Yeah, it is easier to say than to get it done though. We can't even find the spec for the original one, leave alone matching it with a potential substitute. Good luck specing out the right one.
My question is where do you start. Are you going to get an N-channel or P-channel? How about voltage and amps? Switching characteristics. Or you want to start with the popular 2N3055 since a transistor is a transistor is a transistor.
DZ
As far as I have been able to deduce, those parts are no longer available in North America. Perhaps its different for you Aussies.Mr. MX6 said:the new ignitor (Ford P/N: F32Z-12A112-BA)
the new coil (Ford P/N: F32Z-12029-AA)