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I need help. I was reading about the fe3 engine and six speed tranny. I WANT THAT!!! Does anyone know more about the fe3 engine and tranny? If i could get more info on that I'd be very very happy!
 

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FE3 Engine

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1998 cc
bore and stroke 86mm x 86mm
Compression ratio 10:1 (88 mod 626) 9,5:1 later
Power 148hp/6000rpm
Torque 182-186nm/3500rpm
Forged crank
hyperauthetic pistons
wariable intake manifoild
oil sqirters to cool the pistons

The engine fits all Mazda 2,2 tranny`s but to use it in a US car you need all manifoilds and sensors and of course
the ecu

the 6 speed tranny you read about are from an Opel and ill guess its almost impossible to find in the US and it also reqires a lot of custom work to make it fit

If you wanna use a FE3 engine, boost it, you probably wasting your monay if you just run it N/A. I have a car stock with the FE3 engine and of course its fast but i dont think its much faster than a US MX6 GT.I want to boost mine but i dont know how to get the cash needed.

 
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what car is the twin cam out of?

and is it a feasible swap into an aust delivered 2.2L Turbo?

i've notice the 2.2 is a lil strangled tall in the rev range and not worth rev'n past about 5K

was the twin cam turbo? if not can u bolt up the 2.2Turbo intake and out take manifolds? are the mounts etc much differant?

and where could i track down such a beast??? :)
 

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The F2 motors do not rev high very well because they are long stroke motors. Meaning they are better for low and mid-range tourque.
 
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Yeah I have the same questions about the manifolds. Anyone have answers?
 

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AusMX6 said:
what car is the twin cam out of?

and is it a feasible swap into an aust delivered 2.2L Turbo?

i've notice the 2.2 is a lil strangled tall in the rev range and not worth rev'n past about 5K

was the twin cam turbo? if not can u bolt up the 2.2Turbo intake and out take manifolds? are the mounts etc much differant?

and where could i track down such a beast??? :)

The 2,0 litre DOCH 16 valve FE3 engine was standard in 88-91 626 in Europe.
The engine on the pic are a custom buildt turbo engine from The article you wrote about.
The FE3 engine was not aviable with turbo but are well suitable for turbo conversion due its strong and reliable layout (my engine has went 350000 km and still running strong)

To make this conversion you need custom buildt exhaustmanifoild and the stock FE3 intake (F2T ex and intake wont fit (i would recommend to get a complete engine with intake, wiring and computer).

I know these engines are hard to find in US and Australia
(they came in the Kia Sportage but with different cams,crank and pistons) but if you want to import the genuine Mazda unit, you can try this link too a Swedish database of used carparts. Each hit of a certain part gives you an possibillity to ask for prices and mailadresses or postal adresses to the different
wreckyards

http://www.bildelsbasen.se/



[Edited by FE3T on 05-21-2001 at 03:47 PM]
 
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i would like to see more pics of your custom exhaust manifold as i am going to turb my fe3 dohc engine how did you solve the compression ratio did u fit new pistons if yes what type? the turbo coolant lines where on the engine did you fit these onto? thanks a lot
 

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Aus626_DoHc said:
i would like to see more pics of your custom exhaust manifold as i am going to turb my fe3 dohc engine how did you solve the compression ratio did u fit new pistons if yes what type? the turbo coolant lines where on the engine did you fit these onto? thanks a lot
Sorry if i have confused you
I have not found a legal way to finance my projekt yet
so my engine is still N/A
 

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someone or some people at probetalk.com have turboed their fe3s by making custom kits. They'll some you some pics of their manifolds.
 
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fe3 turbo?

you dont happen to know who they are i suppose thanks anywayz
 

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Aus626_DoHc said:
you dont happen to know who they are i suppose thanks anywayz
I guess you have read about the south african 323 pickup with a Turbocharged FE3 engine

I know that a guy called Boosted MX has a Turboed FE3 engine Try to search Mx Board and a another board i supply a link to :

http://www.probetalk.com/forums/index.php @- @- @-
 
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i found article on the south african pik up but could not get acsess as it is members only do u know were else?
thanks fe3t
 

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What a superb car! Take one South African Mazda 323 ute - yes a ute! - and swap in a 2-litre DOHC engine from the big brother 626. Bolt it to a 6-speed trans (yes, and it is still front wheel drive) and then add a turbo and intercooler. Throw in some NOS and stand well back...
Pick-ups (USA), utes (Australia) or bakkies (South Africa) - call them what you want - have never been as big elsewhere as in the US as far as tuning or styling is concerned. The States even having special forms of drag and track racing for their 'workhorses'! And it also seems as though the size of delivery vehicle is directly proportional to the area of the country in which it is to be used. In the US you see anything up to V10 pick-ups doing duty, while Australia has its fair share of V6 and V8 utes. Unfortunately, here in South Africa, we have to make do with bakkies with motors as small as 1.4-litres and able to carry only a measly half metric ton.

But not all of our utes are slow...

Enter 31-year-old Logan Naiker, who after a brief spell with a nitrous-sniffing BMW M3, realized that he was indeed a speed junkie and that the M3 just was not fast enough to keep his habit fuelled. So to satisfy his addiction to speed, Logan, being a business man without the requisite technical and mechanical expertise, enlisted local tuning guru and nitrous specialist Sybrand (Sybie) Coetzee to build for him a devastatingly fast and quick road machine. The starting point for this exercise was, you guessed it, a ute from the Mazda stable. The little front wheel drive 323-based Rustler was bought in 1997 and Sybie quickly began the rebuild that would be required to attain the kind of speeds Logan was hoping to achieve. So out went the stock engine and gearbox and in went a 2-litre 16-valve unit from a bigger brother in the Mazda range - the 626 sedan. In stock form this powerplant makes a realistic 67kW at the front wheels, but that figure was of no relevance to Sybie as he knew the potential of the unit.

First order of business was to drop the compression ratio in anticipation of the turbo, and this was achieved using aftermarket forged connecting rods from Carillo, which brought the CR down to 8:1. The standard pistons were retained and have as yet not let the motor down. Next step was to fabricate a tubular turbo exhaust manifold, this was done in-house by Sybie himself. Used was 38mm steam pipe, which is extremely tolerant to the high exhaust temperature and resistant to cracking. Connected to the custom manifold is another Sybie special consisting of a mix of Garrett bits. A hybrid turbocharger, it uses pieces from a T3 and T4, with this lot protected from over boosting by an Audi external wastegate on the exhaust side, and saved from compressor surge on decel with an HKS sequential blow-off valve on the inlet side. The pressurized gases make their way through a grill-mounted intercooler and then on to a standard inlet manifold.

As we all know, all that extra air is useless without some more fuel to set it off, and these all-important fuelling duties are handled by an Australian-sourced [McGee? - Ed] Air Mass unit, that uses an air sensor to pick up vital info such as boost pressure, air-speed, etc. Sybie swears by this system, as it is fairly easy simple to set-up and does not require a lap-top computer and days on the dyno, and uses it on all his personal vehicles. The cherry on top (of the inlet that is) is the NOS fogger nozzle plumbed into the inlet manifold - it's worth an additional 100hp.

This combination has been dyno'ed to the tune of 406 galloping horses (that's 303kW if you don't speak ole west) and that's without the nitrous! If you find that a little hard to gulp down, then just take a gander at the little vehicle's achievements to date. A 12.4 second quarter mile pass at 210 km/h, a 252 and 270 km/h over eight hundred and one thousand metres respectively! I'll bet that power output is starting to look a lot more believable now. As you'd expect, this was not achieved on pump fuel, but rather 102 octane race fuel that helps to inhibit knock at the 1.65 Bar (24 psi) of boost used on competition outings. To get all this power and accompanying torque to the pavement, an Opel TS 6-speed gearbox was hooked up to the motor via a custom adaptor plate, and this feeds the power out to special sideshafts. Even with all this power on tap, the ute is no savage beast and is used regularly by both Logan and his wife as daily transport.

Logan wasn't silly enough to trust the standard suspension and braking equipment to keep him safe in this little rocket and had a set of custom springs (coils up front and leafs in the rear) made up, as none of the performance suspension specialists provide for this model. And just to keep things in the family, a full all-disc brake set-up was installed and is more than capable of slowing down the ute due to its relatively low mass. The suspension is nicely rounded (no pun intended) off by a set off Viper multi-spoke alloys wrapped in Bridgestone 205/40/17 rubber.

If would-be challengers in their 930 Porsches think that Logan is quite the comic with his personalized license plate, they soon find out that this little missile does indeed have what it takes to back up such an audacious gesture.







 
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the more and more my 2.2 turbo plays up - the more viable this option becomes hehehe
 
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http://www.members.optushome.com.au/mazdas626/page2.html
http://www.members.optushome.com.au/mazdas626/page3.html
http://www.members.optushome.com.au...members.optushome.com.au/mazdas626/page6.html
check out these.
the only problem turbo charging the fe3 is the cr ratio which mazda states as 10:0:1 the kia sportage engine is rated at 9:2:1 so using pistons from the sportage is the trick.the fe3 intake is similar to the f2 turbo but much better as it gives best of both worlds with long intake runners once engine reaches 5200 rpm it then goes to the shorter part of the manifold which improves top end.the engine will bolt directly to existing f2t gearbox all the engine mounts are the same also.you just have to get exhaust manifold fabricated.the cost is not that high comapared to the thrill i will get from thrashing wrx`s:D
 
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