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To make a story short. I was on highway way in front of this cooper i could see him in my rearview mirror. So i start goin faster and i notice hes keeping up and gettin closer. i downshift try everything and i can't lose him ............he ends up passing me pretty fast and i was doin 85 i look at his car and it had an S on the side. How fast are those cars?
 

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those cars are surprisingly quick....i was on the PA turn pike a while back and i had a cooper S pass me when i was doin 90 and he passed me like i was almost sitting still.....to my knowledge the motor in the S is a super charged 4 banger...which is actually a european version of the neon engine(my source on that is a VW tech).....so dont be ashamed to get ur ass handed to you by a cooper S
 

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Damnnnnnnn it was supercharged no wonder anything i did woudnt matter. I think he knew he could pass me.
 

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yea those cars are definately no joke....they better be fast for around 30 g's.....
 

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dont they have like 160 hp? i think thats right but that may be the non supercharged cooper, anyway that much power in a lil car like that is sure to be quick
 

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Id say around 500 pounds and with someone inside 550 pounds
 

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There not all that fast, some guy posted a pic on here with a stock LS (maybe intake and exhaust) and he beat the hell out of it everytime
 

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Id say around 500 pounds and with someone inside 550 pounds
:lol: does that include gas too?
 

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ok a few things to point out

first off the S is 2700lbs or so...

it's a 1.6l supercharged 4(so i highly doubt that its a neon motor seeing as they use 2.0) with a 6sp tranny

it doesn't cost 30g's a 2004 S runs for around 23-25k at most(unless the drive for the cooper package which i think goes for like 31k, which changes the SC, exhaust, and some other things and puts down 200hp and 177tq with fairly minimal weight gain)

163hp @6k
155tq @4k

they claim 0-60's of 6.9-7.1 depending on who's talking

just so u know
 

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Yeah a teacher drives one at my school, thats one of the only cars that can take me at my school
 

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I thought it was made by BMW since BMW seems to the ones that made the Mini Cooper.

I like the way they look, I really like the top modles with the center exhaust exit with dual chrome tips. The nice and big wheels. Great little cars
 

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i stand corrected...i looked around and the cooper engine is the product of a joint venture between DaimlerChrysler and BMW...it's a platform called the pentagon(god knows what that means)

as for the rest of the car it is thoroughly BMW
 
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I really don't think the LS would ever pass a Cooper S. If you take the given (underated) horsepower rating on the Cooper S, it has 163. The LS only has 164, but weighs a couple hundred pounds more.

For more empirical evidence on the underrated engine in the Cooper S, look at Grassroots Motorsports experiences with a dyno. http://www.grmotorsports.com/minicooper.html

If you take 155 hp at the wheels and algebraically solve for 15% drivetrain loss, the car is really making about 182 horsepower at the crank, which is where car manufacturers tout their horsepower figures.

Similarly, their Cooper made 109 hp at the wheel, assuming 15% drivetrain loss, the engine is really making about 128 horsepower.

I would guess that a MINI Cooper S with a power to weight ratio of 14.4 lbs per hp would have little trouble passing a LS, with a power to weight ratio of 16.4 lbs per hp. (I used 2,700 lbs as the weight for a LS, this may be incorrect).
 

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i raced a guy in my wrx the other night who had a grey cooper s with sweet gunmetal rims and somesort of exhaust. i beat him pretty bad. this was on the highway though and i shut down at around 115 or so and was wayyyyy infront of him. i dont think i can compare my wrx to my 6, but id bet he could beat my 6 (if it ran right)
 

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wrx6, i beat one pretty bad a while back with the same mods u have on your 6 + a testpipe and mx3 flywheel... I dont know if u saw the video's i posted or not, i had 3+ cars on him in 3rd, didnt even go to the end of 3rd cuz he wasnt gonna come back, then we ran through 2nd and 3rd and i had about 1 1/2 cars on him, he held up not bad in 2nd, but i pulled had in 3rd..
 
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