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Inserting Socket/Plug into Transmission???

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I'm planning to use a different/newer transmission for a klze swap. However, I've heard horror stories that if you don't insert a plug or socket in the "differential side gear" that the gears may possibly fall out of place creating havoc upon reinstallation. Link/thread I've found as an example:
http://www.mx6.com/forums/2g-mx6-other-performance/195057-v6-manual-transmission-freak-accident.html

IS there anyway to visually tell if the gears have fell out of place prior to buying the new transmission? Pics would be great.

Basically I don't want to purchase a transmission which already has the gears out of place requiring me to take apart the transmission in order to re-align them. TIA
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Goatcrapp
its specifically the spider gears you're talking about. I don't have pics handy, but you want to look into the axle holes, and make sure you see 4 gears, all facing inward.

imagine this with a tranny case over it, and without the pin in the middle:


also - it doesnt have to be a socket.. i typically use rope or wire - whatever will keep 1 gear tightly in place (this will keep all of them in place)
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Is that a diff from a / your Jeep? Since its not a MX6 diff was curious.
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Goatcrapp
no clue.. it was image 3 or for with a google image search lol.
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Looks beefy, I wish ours didnt have plastic on it.
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Goatcrapp said:
its specifically the spider gears you're talking about. I don't have pics handy, but you want to look into the axle holes, and make sure you see 4 gears, all facing inward.
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Well I took a look at the transmission i'll be might be using and I didn't see the spider gears you were referring to, can you double check, here's a shot from the passenger side (intermediate shaft side):



And from the driver's side:



What do you think?
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I do believe thats an ATX. Mine came with a coathanger through the hole. Only problem is that it messed up the seals, so i had to replace them.
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SauerKraut said:
I do believe thats an ATX. Mine came with a coathanger through the hole. Only problem is that it messed up the seals, so i had to replace them.
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What's an ATX? I'm just trying to find out if the gears are placed correctly before inserting a socket...
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thats not an AutoMatic Transmission thats a 5sp
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herox21
I never had to stick anything through my trans when I reinstalled it. I may be one of the lucky few though, who knows! :D
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vandejm said:
thats not an AutoMatic Transmission thats a 5sp
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Aight.
But please educate me as to how to tell the difference, as my atx looks almost exactly like that
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Fastest95PGT
That's right nisif. I don't believe you would see any spider gears through the axle holes as GC had mentioned.

However, using GC's picture as an example, it is possible that one of those gears you see in the middle could rotate down/up and cause you to not be able to insert an axle. That is why it is suggested you place something in there to keep it in place during transport.

I've never put anything in or through the axle holes when doing any of the engine / transmission swaps I've done. I've also transported many (and have 2 MTX, 1 ATX, and a 323 GTX manual tranny) without ever having the spider gears slide around. I'm not saying it's impossible, just not the most likely thing you should be worrying about.
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Reply/Follow Up to Inserting Socket into Transmission

Fastest95PGT: pm'd you
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