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ya, just wanna say how crap holdens are, put a bunch of wogs to shame, on the weekend, "got nothing agented wogs" being 1 myself"........but ya, i just dislike holdens:p

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I think your to harsh on holdens buddy, it's the drivers that give them such a bad name. Drove my bosses V8 SS Ute today (VY), lowered, exhuast, 18" wheels, full leather interior, red.. a reall head turner and its such an awesome car to drive, so much power :D
 

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AzZa said:
I think your to harsh on holdens buddy, it's the drivers that give them such a bad name. Drove my bosses V8 SS Ute today (VY), lowered, exhuast, 18" wheels, full leather interior, red.. a reall head turner and its such an awesome car to drive, so much power :D
Agreed - the holden with the nissan engine in it (VL)..? .. now that was a good little car.

Go NilDen/HolSsan..:p
 

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Go NilDen/HolSsan..:p
DONT you dare compare Nissan's too holdens. Thats like comparing a Ferrari too a Fiat !!!!!

And its not the driver's that give them a bad name its the whole holden thing altogether.

I would rather a Nissan over any Holden, well maybe not that HR KLZE ;)
 

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Uhh isnt ferrari owned by fiat anyway?

There is many a fulli sik commodore getting around though!
 

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AzZa said:
I think your to harsh on holdens buddy, it's the drivers that give them such a bad name. Drove my bosses V8 SS Ute today (VY), lowered, exhuast, 18" wheels, full leather interior, red.. a reall head turner and its such an awesome car to drive, so much power :D

A "head turner" for who ? Bricklayers and plumbers ? It's still a boofhead's car. :D
 

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Its got a GenIII chevy engine buddy... can't help it if the add on tv shows brick layers and plumbers running for one :p

I feel to each there own. Holdens (apart from the VL's geminis), should always be classed with the Fords and american cars just because there not a rice rocket. Unfortunatly wogs try and turn them into a rice rocket and rice lovers like our selves get pissed off :p


And WantFE3 buddy, your defending Nissans over holdens in a Mazda forum :rolleyes:
 

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A "head turner" for who ? Bricklayers and plumbers ? It's still a boofhead's car. :D
hahaha! :D

I drove a mates (read: boofhead plumber mates :D) VY SS ute last night too, 6sp GenIII with 18's, and to be honest i thought it would have had much more go than it did. It did feel like the stock exhaust was restricting it though..
 

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A "head turner" for who ? Bricklayers and plumbers ? It's still a boofhead's car.
rofl ...hahahah...good call mate

i think we should out that as the quote of the week or somethin ..funnilly enough its true..whenver i see a holden especially a holden UTE..i think it must be a 40 year old boofhead drivin hehehee
 

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Maybe I'm the only objective one
but, hey yeah ricing up a holden has never been great but it's not new.

They are Australian cars and Australians are the ones who buy them. The quality is not up to scratch of most jap cars but there advantages have always been a better ride, built to the conditions.

I will say the new one's are not as good as the Old ones
After trying to remove metal from a HQ monaro door, the differences are Major, these cars are built like tanks metal is double if not tripple the thickness of any import or even new Holden or Ford. But of course this is why they need a big motor to get going and have been fairly underbraked.

YOu only have to look under the rear of a Holden VT onward to a Ford Au or even BA and you cna tell that Ford still build tank suspension conponents compared with Holden.

The advantage of owning a Aussie made car be it holden or Toyota are easy, break a belt on weekedn drive in the country and servo should have on the wall. Can't do that with just about any import.

They might not be disirable to all, they might not be value for money, but people who love them always will.

They say your either a Holden or Ford man, well I'm neither as I'm not even a full on mazda man, I just judge a car by what you get for your money. Not all cars are the same and not all car owners are the same. The market is full of Knishes, and yes they don't fill everyone's needs. You might think that the 4 major makers are biggest seller but just remember 60% are fleet cars and most just pick what ever they think will do the job.
After all not everyone cars abot performance, lots just care about A to B and the hip pocket.
For that reason we have the Wagon a keepign it as nothing can do what it does better on the Market.
Hold 7 people
Be very economical - pulled 7.4 to 100kms on the last cruise (note open throttle was the norm ask Boosting 6 )
Be fully option with supple ride


Find me a new car that can do all that.
 

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whyd u have to go all smart on us rod hehehe ;)
its fun baggin out holdens even though YES they are good cars but certainly NOT my style anyway
 

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i wouldnt buy a commodore personally, but before owning my mx6, thats what i got stuck with.

it was a vk commo wagon, i had some great times in it.

i must say that there are some things u can do in a commodore, that i wouldnt even think about doing in my mx6!.. (only because i CARE if i break something on my 6)

but it also works vice versa, there are some things i can do in my mx6 that just arent possible in the commo... like going fast :)
 

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And WantFE3 buddy, your defending Nissans over holdens in a Mazda forum :rolleyes:
Yeah ;) i just like the nissans :) i dont care how fast your commo is i still would rather a 1200 Coupe 1600 Sedan or a 240-280zx :)


I dont mind the older commo's vb's - vh's but the others are not for my liking :)
 

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the way i look at it

v6 mazda vs v6 holden

rotory vs v8

Holden = [email protected] they still losses

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the vl turbo is so easy to get power out of. this has to be respected, as for around $2000 of mods, you are easily into the 13's. my mates interceptor ran [email protected] with just 13psi, 3 inch exhaust and an intercooler. they are a quick machine, even in they are everywhere. but i still would never own a holden. GO FORD (waits to be slapped by the mazda lovers!!!)
 

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lol

i got a soft spot for ford

only because mazda own them:p
 
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