Yeah, So who's had one and removed it?. The chip or new ECU is probably THE most effective way of increasing HP.xeon said:The chip manufacturers will tell you that they increase the hp a certain number, but that's BS. Or at least with our cars. There are more effective ways to get performance out of the engine.
Xeon is likely referring to makers like Superchips that make wild, unfounded claims like a 21BHP gain from a PROM for the 2.5L normally aspirated V6.4WSboy said:Yeah, So who's had one and removed it?. The chip or new ECU is probably THE most effective way of increasing HP.
Put your 2.25" exhausts on and swap your panel filter and what have you got 5hp?.
Yes I do have one (Powerchip gold).($500 u.s installed)
In a nutshell: Move more air and fuel and reduce parasitic losses.Sjlax4 said:If not a chip, then what is the best/most inexpensive way to increase my speed in the 6?
It's not that simple. The KLZE "Japanese-spec" motor has a different intake manifold, different camshafts, different heads (larger ports), different pistons (10:1 compression) and a different PCM calibration (e.g. vastly different timing tables and VRIS points). This motor makes 36HP more than the KL03 engine by virtue of all of these items, not just the PCM calibration.seezar said:
I'm dubious. Let me give an example: in the KL03, the VRIS points at WOT are the familiar 3250/4250/6250 points. In the KLZE, the equivalent points are 4062/4781/6812. The spark maps are way different as well.MX-6 BOY jr said:actually I have seen KLZE dynos with and without the reprogramed ecu and there is no diference.
Thanks John. Actually, the VRIS points on Michels are at 3250/4250/6250 while the Corksport ones are at 3750/4750/6450. These don't appear to be the true KLZE points (at least as I understand them to be) so I wonder if the Corksport ECU "upgrade" is a simple re-cal of a US-spec KL03 PCM rather than installing an actual KLZE PROM.MX-6 BOY jr said:go to corksport's PROJECT MX-3gs on there web page. they have a dyno with the klze as and there own ecu. Also look at michaels page and you will see the VRIS DIPS are in the same place. check your email for the plots. you will also notice that the car with the stock ecu pulls higher hp and torque numbers as well.
[Edited by MX-6 BOY jr on 05-12-2001 at 01:13 PM]
My source has the KLZE VRIS points at (KL03 shown first):MX-6 BOY jr said:no problem Mike. Yes, Michaels car does seem to stomp all over the corksport car especially in the area of torque. By the way,what are the actual j spec vris shift points suppost to be at?