[steelersfan]

I just bought the perfect shifter nob for my car but it adds about 2 inches to my throw. It feels like im driveing a semi. My shifter nob uses set screws and i hate to say this can i hack down my stock shifter to make a short shifter affect. Would that cause any problems??

 

[Malicious]

It will look shorter, but it won't actually provide a shorter throw. Either way, it won't hurt anything to cut it down.

 

[trickedmx6]

It will look shorter, but it won't actually provide a shorter throw. Either way, it won't hurt anything to cut it down.

Exactly, I hacked mine down about 1 1/2 years ago, no problems.

 

[TJ-MX6]

from what ive read, the knob isnt what makes a sts a sts. Its the shorter poll below the pivot that goes into the trany that makes a sts a sts.
Forget the knob...and get a real sts. Just my $.02 worth.
I dont have one.....but its certainly a consideration if ever I should do this.
Search a bit on this site and get more info - you'd be surprised as to what is out there.

 

[Kansas]

TJ is right, the shifter could be 2 ft tall, it still travels the same distance, know what i mean? i still say cut it, maked it look much nicer, hell i even did it on my ATX put a manual knob on it and shortened it about an incha and a half, look GREAT!

 

[KING6]

i hacked 3 inchs off my stocker becuase it got in the way of the radio, its the best thing i ever did.

i have a real sts, never got around to putting it in..

 

[Fastest95PGT]

from what ive read, the knob isnt what makes a sts a sts. Its the shorter poll below the pivot that goes into the trany that makes a sts a sts.

If I recall correctly, it's longer below and shorter above.

The reason why it's called a "short throw" is because you move your hand less.

 

[TJ-MX6]

Been thinking about what I said, and I will admit, I was wrong. Fastest95 is correct. Its longer below the pivot ball that makes a sts a sts.
I was like like trying to find a pic of the diff on here..but couldnt..
Found this via google....

Altho this may not be a sts for the 6, it depicts the difference btwn stock and a true sts.
Sorry to mislead anyone...my 'bad'....

 

[Fastest95PGT]

It's ok to be wrong sometimes. :tup:

I remember how it goes because of people that used to cut a chunk out of the top of their stock shifter and put it below... essentially moving the ball up the same shifter shaft.

 

[pktaske]

makes unequviqual sense...more 'work' is performed at the now longer end (relative to the fulcrum) with less distance required on the 'throw'.:jump: One question: having not had the luxury of ever using one, is shifting harder, more effort, smoother, easier, etc...

 

[Fastest95PGT]

The shift is more "notchy" typically because you are applying less leverage to the shift.

I recently took my RR STS out of my 2g and put my gf's LS's stock shifter in (yes, bad bushings and all) so I could put more force on my 1-2 shift to help force it into gear.

 

[TJ-MX6]

Interesting.. You put the old back in, so you could apply more force for 1-2 shift.
Whats the point of a sts then?? - having not used on.
Or is using the old one for the purpose you mentioned better for a racing application?!?! - Ya know, when you're getting it on Fast..for the shift and hanking it back into 2nd !

 

[Fastest95PGT]

Well, I honestly don't believe that a STS gives any benefit to shifting speed. I could rip through gears very quick on my old transmission with the stock shifter. Going to a STS on a poor shifting transmission just made things worse.

Think about it, less leverage is being applied to the transmission linkage when using a STS, so more force has to be applied by your hand to get the same net force on the transmission to get it to shift as fast.

I put the stock shifter back in my 2g simply to let me put all my muscle into the shift and have the added leverage to help as well since the STS wasn't doing it for me. I figure at this point something is going to break (stock shifter, transmission, transmission linkage) and I just don't care anymore because I hate the 1-2 synchro just that much.

 

[TJ-MX6]

Interesting........
Sounds like a mod I would rather not do. Not that I had any plans for it..but initially I thought it might be worth while, if and when the time came.
Guess not now anyway.

 

[Fastest95PGT]

Some people swear by them.. and I would love to go to their house late at night to steal their transmission. })

I think it's another case of the mod that sounds like it should work but really adds no benefit. I won't say what the other(s) are that come to mind because I don't want to start a debate.

 

[TJ-MX6]

Is it a case of weak 2G transmissions in general..or just in your case, re: 1-2 synchros?

 

[esembe]

That damn 1-2 Sychro ...making my shifts noisy :sigh:

 

[TJ-MX6]

Is it the sychro..or sqeeky bushings?
How can you tell if the sychro is going? - Difficult to get it into gear, I suppose!
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Nevermind.. I remember now..when the synchros went on my mgb-gt. Couldnt do jack-sit with shifting.. Had to man-handle it into gear.

 

[CustomMX6]

Yeah, the STS in my mx6 was awesome, I payed I think 40 for it brand new from a buddy, I suggest getting one, its badass shifting from a flick of the wrist lol I thought about cuttin it down, but its real easy to install, and very cheap, so I'd just buy one man, you'll be impressed.


EDIT: yeah it might not be that much of a help in the 1/4 mile, but it was so nice to shift even in normal driving. Acually now that I think about it, becuase of the installation of the STS, I had MAJOR trouble shifting from 1st to 2nd, like it too alot of strength, and puttin it in reverse was a bitch.

When I would leave it in gear like 3rd or something, people would NOT believe me that it was in gear, thats now short the throw was. But I suppose the only reason it didnt shift real smooth, was because of the fact that it was designed by pacesetter lol

 

[Evert]

It will look shorter, but it won't actually provide a shorter throw. Either way, it won't hurt anything to cut it down.

Actually, it does make throw shorter. Compare the arrows.