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TX5 V6 Ghia VS Mazda 626 V6

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#1 ·
Which one is quicker?? I'm considering on buying one of them and i want to know which one is the better car?

From what info i have gathered (mostly from www.drive.com.au) the TX5 is 85 KG lighter but the 626 has a much lower diff.

So yeah ne one who has an opinion please jump in
 
#2 · (Edited)
The base model (V6 5 speed) both use the same engine, gearbox and diff. The TX5 is 20Kg light than the 626.

The 626 came with a sunroof and CD as standard while it was an option on the TX5. The TX5 did come with stiffer suspension.

There is also a 4WS TX5 model which was fully optioned and came with a body kit, This car also weighted more.

Both is equally as quick, it just depends on what you think looks better. IMO, the TX5 has a more aggresive look. The model to pick is the 4WS if you can find one. Better still buy a MX6.

Have a look at my site http://drive.to/tx5 for more info.
 
#6 ·
I have to agree with Kas, the TX5 has a boxy look to it, the kit dosent sit right. For me the lines on the 626 sit much better, and the rear lights and front fog lights look much better, but then agen me and Kas might be a bit biased.....


hehe
 
#8 ·
Ok.

I certainly dont wanna annoy anybody, cos i feel out of place here enough as it is! :D

IMO the 626 looks better from the side, it seems to have smoother bumpers, that mould to the car better. I dont like the 626 headlights/parkers, but i dont like how i have indicators in the front of my bumper.

I Iike my fogs better than the 626, and i think my dask looks better than the 626 dash. IMO the TX5 does look more agressive from the front and the rear.

Kas/Low_626, you both have awesome looking cars, and to tell the truth i was looking at EITHER a 626 or a TX5, just ended up getting another TX5. Im not trying to say my car is better than yours! :)

New pics of mine will be up soon, with the new springs, and all the panel work.. It's also had all the badges removed, and had those bumper inserts Kas was talking about color coded. So its even harded to tell if its TX5/626 :D

And Kas, it may have a lilttle ford in it, but its got a hell of a lot more mazda :D zoom zoom!

Thank god for the Mazda/Ford wife swapping nights.

Caleb.
 
#12 ·
Kas said:
hehehe,

its all in good humour, at least both the TX5 and the 626 are better than MX6's (thats 1st AND 2nd geners):cool:
Hey they are all good cars
I like both but prefer Kas's 626 but don't mind the TX5 4WS

But WAGON it takes the Cake Sold between both 1st and 2nd GEn
either FWD or 4WD (JAPAN) V6 also available apparently 2 different Superchargers(87-95) turbo (87-94)
With optional 7 seats for them big nights out with the girls
OH YEAH
And hey you have seen what the wagon's got
IT will have more in the near future, hello 9.4:1 nothing like a SHAGGIN WAGGIN TO GET IT ON.

but on the original question if you can't make up your mind go for the one which you find is in better condition.
 
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#13 ·
so can some explain to me why www.drive.com.au has different stuff for the standard 626 and the TX5


Mazda 626 5D hatch 2.5 V6
http://www.drive.com.au/buy/market_...ket_value/car_details.asp?nvic=YAB&make=MAZDA&model=626&series=&year=1993&body=

Ford TX5 Telstar Ghia hatc 5D 2.5 V6
http://www.drive.com.au/buy/market_...nvic=X4G&make=FORD&model=TELSTAR&series=TX5+GHIA+V6&year=1993&body=5D+HATCHBACK

And i'm not talking about little pissy things like CD players

The TX5 is not 20KG lighter but 85KG lighter!!!

and look at the final ratios... the TX5 is way lower than the 626..


And why can't the 626 tow the same amount as a tx5.
 
#15 ·
Damn Silver you beat me to it!

Or you can click here to compare the two vehicles at CarSales.com.au. I know it says 91 626 but i think that's a stuff up.

As Silver pointed out, both articles have inconsistancies.. Carsales say the final drive is the same on both vehicles, but they say they have a different turning circle!


Good luck deciding :D


Caleb.
 
#16 ·
hey i own a 1993 tx5 base model ghia hatch and my neighbour has the 626 varient i personly prefer the tx5 not cause i own one for little things like the base model 626 ie neighbours doesnt come with velour trim its cloth cd player not standard either and he's driven mine and then his and agrees my 4cyl has more grunt than his mind u i looking around for a cheap set iv thought of putting 626 taillights with the tx5 centre piece so it has a honda nsx,mitsubish verada look if people get what i mean but personly i love my eunos 800m in the shed thats my toy and id love to see a 626 or tx5 beat that beast with her smooth as supercharged 2.3l v6 (avoid 4ws tx5 cause if it going bang your wallet does to ) and of course as any true mazda fan would know avoid autos trouble with lock up converter my eunos had it do it 1 month after i got it cost 2 grand to repair locked in reverse and natrualy couldnt reverse or get out of second gear i was luck mine was under warranty seeya trent
 
#19 ·
Ok having owned an AT TX5 TURBO and a GD 626 TURBO, The build quality I feel is the same except in two aspects. The TX5 has a better dashboard because it is less likely to crack - my theory is its slightly more angular than the 626 one - so it may not even be a quality issue. The only other things is the uphostry, MX6, GHIA and 626 velour is second to none, im sure many will vouch for that. However the wool blend found in the AT TX5 Turbos (and some lower spec MX6's) looks absolutely stunning but its a bitch to clean. And if you clean it too well it looks a bit saggy and out of shape. Where is I just got a patch of grease the size of my fist on the drivers seat in my 626T and I got seat cleaner and it came off without scrubbing and you wouldnt even know it was there - I do believe the velour is top quality.
 
#23 ·
your quote on the dash is TOTALLY WRONG. Sorrybut it's quote I've heard before.

Dash's regardless of how made the car even from same factory will always crack if not cared for. END OF IT.
I've detailed, I've cleaned Sold reworked everytype. End of the day Car with a Dash matt originally - Had best dash. Even leather dash from a top line 80's porsche I've seen crack or at least fade to buggery.
I can you right now there is no difference between the two model makes in terms of parts. 80% of the same parts all came from the same bin out of the same machine that produced it. these are not like Aus assemblied Lasers Versus the Jap delivered 323's.
In terms of the GD's or At etc the Ford will always be a lesser virchle mainly just on the fact the At v the Av had no crusie and less the driving lights.
There are little things missing but strips of sound deadener etc are nothing.
It's why come the AX & GE there it's very very cosmetic. you can basicly change a Tx5 into 626 without as many changes as you need on Gd At and in fact you don't even need to change mounts, for gaurds etc.


but the real question is why have we brought up such an OLD THREAD.

A MOD should seperate it really if we are going to have new discusion on this IMO
 
#24 ·
Maybe I should have said less likely to crack in my opinion and experience, It was late at night, and yes I do agree with being looked after, mind you I thought mine was looked after and I came back one day (wasnt even really hot) to find a crack in it.

Not really any reason the split this thread, because it is still TX5 vs 626, yeah I started talking about a different model but its not like people are talking about Ford vs Holden or something in here. But if everyone thinks so just ask :)
 
#26 ·
626 FTW. (at least in the GDs) the shape is cleaner, the build quality of the Japanese manufactured 626 is slightly higher in places than the Taiwanese built Telstar. And frankly the fighter-plane style curved dashboard of the 626 is far more appealing than the big angular lump in the equivalent Telstar.

Now the later model GE/AX is a different story... they're both nice cars, and personally I find the lines of the Telstar to be slightly cleaner.

But hey, opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one, and they're usually full of poop.
 
#27 ·
626 FTW. (at least in the GDs) the shape is cleaner, the build quality of the Japanese manufactured 626 is slightly higher in places than the Taiwanese built Telstar. And frankly the fighter-plane style curved dashboard of the 626 is far more appealing than the big angular lump in the equivalent Telstar.

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Taiwanese built telstar. I havne't found a Taiwanese built Telstar yet. Either Low vol jap import or a Australian import. they were all built in japan that were delivered here and well Mazda only started builiding off shore in Thailand in 1998 so ?


Anyway to spice this up

Iv'e got a 1991 wheels car test 5 hatchbacks
Ford Tx-5 turbo AV -Honda Concerto -Mazda 626 GD1022- Mitsubishi Galant GSR - Nissan Pintara superhatch TI. All agaisnt each other

Prices equipment - Tx5 has anti theift radio and ABS the GSR has fancy suspension The pintara has Viscus LSD. The 626 - as quoted "The 626 doesn't have any exclusive features but includes all major items and a few niceties as well.
But none of the five have drink can holder - yes even then holder your maccers was getting important. - How american are we now.
oh and the honda was priced silly who ever bought one was fool.

Performance - Mark the Concerto as adequite - 626 Pintara Ti and GSr as Good to VERY GOOD - the TX-5 turbo - as extraordinary - as quoted
They do note the concerto has only 1.6L ? but whocares it has worset pwoer to weight etc bad

car on the GSR - it's noted as 2nd highest power to weight - great motor matched with great gear ratios - let's not GREAT MOTOR it's still sort of kicking in a EVO!
The pintara heavest by like 20KG has the biggest and torquest - non turbo motor - good old 2.4L 12 valve - americans know this one well as it's found in there 240SX's HA H
but out of all the cars it was the quickest on the standing start amoung the non turbos

The 626 -"No-one could claim the 626 engine is particularlt refined but it isn't ever noticeably noisy or rough either". they note it's just behind both Pintara and GSR but it fares better in the torque to KG ratio 2nd best of group .They say this is why it sometimes shades it's Galant and pintara in the rolling start accelleration times. They also claim it's areodynamics are slipperier then the others ? 0.33cd from 1987.

The Tx5 well it's in class of it's own all thats need to be said.
oh and they do note it recoored the quickest times even in brackets which leave most turbos pausing as they wait for there impellers to spool.
it recorded 16.4 for the 1/4 8.4 for the 100 but they note that was all with RULP - 91ROn unleaded they not you can shave easy half a second on both times running then 95RON premium uleaded pretol.

oh but the 626 N/A has sweeter shifting box then TX5

But in conclusion - I could bore you with more - but if you make me I'll scan the article.

oh Honda last test $31,000 for a 1.6L
Pintara - too noisy too wallowy too coars and lacking in detail $27,973
GSR GALANT - Refinement brilliant engine good suspension - but if you budget stretchs low 30 g's ( alot back then) test $33,250
TX5 turbo terms of sheer performance value it WINs BANG FOR BUCK
For under $30,000 g's its worth it tested was $31850 aircon was extra - typical ford
Winner 626 " So where does that leave the 626 - on top of our list to be precise and yours too if you want the most complete all-round package in this family hatch class.
This quote I think sums up alot about MAZDA's

" But the More we drove and lived with the 626 hatch the more it gathered in our esteem to ultimately take the vote as the bast package, the best buy and the over all winner"
as tested too $27,700 everything was standard from aircon to ocsilating vents.
but one thing of interest I found

Warrenty
Ford 12months 20,000Kms ?
honda 24/ unlimited
Mazda
36 months 80,000k's - i note 80,000km's is when exactly out brought new mazda started playing up
mitsubishi - must of known they would blow smoke 12/ unlimited
nissan 24/40,000k's

oh and major service was 10,000 except for the 626 at 15,000k's Talk about pride of build quality.

Mind you one must note how by 1992 majortiy was 3 years 100,000km's or 80,000kms
 
#28 ·
I read it in an article back in the GD days, comparing the two... they alleged Ford used a facility in Taiwan, which also built other Mazda clones like the Courier.

Strange, your car acted up after 80,000? My sister's GV clocked up 365k and was still running fine, the only reason we did a motor swap was because we had a spare FE-DOHC *chuckle*

I hung the old instrument cluster on the wall in memory of that old FE that refused to give grief :)