[Arospeed12]

Hey everyone, today i went to Discount Auto and asked what kind of oil should i use for my 95 MX-6 ls V-6 mtx. I live in Florida and the semi winter is coming. My 6 has 74000 mi on it and it likes to rev high. Im sticking with this Valvoline VR-1 Racing oil so you can't change my mind on that(and im not putting synthetic in so please don't post that either).The only thing i need to know is the weight. Discount recommended 10w-40. If searched all last night about 36 posts on oil changes but none applies to my situation. Please let me know if this is a good weight for my 6. Thanks everyone!!

 

[Backy51]

5W30 or 0W30...why don't you want to go synthetic?

 

[skiingman]

Hey everyone, today i went to Discount Auto and asked what kind of oil should i use for my 95 MX-6 ls V-6 mtx. I live in Florida and the semi winter is coming. My 6 has 74000 mi on it and it likes to rev high. Im sticking with this Valvoline VR-1 Racing oil so you can't change my mind on that(and im not putting synthetic in so please don't post that either).The only thing i need to know is the weight. Discount recommended 10w-40. If searched all last night about 36 posts on oil changes but none applies to my situation. Please let me know if this is a good weight for my 6. Thanks everyone!!

So you are buying a "racing" oil, but don't want a synthetic cause why?

-Garrett

 

[Arospeed12]

not to be rude or anything, but , please just tell me what weight i should use, not what brand or type(synthetic). i've been told by many good people not to use synthetic and im sticking with valvoline because i know its a great oil and i used it in previous cars. i heard all about other brands but im not interested. i just need to know what weight to use. if someone who knows about oil could tell me the weight and why that weight, that would be great. i've read previous posts that say putting in 0w or 5w is like water for our engines. remember i live in florida and i have 74k on the engine. thanks

 

[eXtreMX-6]

Valvoline oil is great oil but why the racing oil?
Its made to me only used at the track and drained and then re put in after the races?

 

[Arospeed12]

Not true!

Vavoline VR-1 This is why. They have changed the formula from just track cars to everyday cars. So why wouldn't you use an oil that has been made for high performance engines and now reformulated for street cars and still retaining its original oil characteristics for the track cars.

 

[Arospeed12]

....

Characteristics being...............
High performance and protection for today's engines that run at high RPM
New ashless anti-wear additives combined with ZDDP provide ultimate wear protection
Enhanced anti-foam system helps protect the engine even during extreme stress
Enhanced additives protect against high-temperature deposits for a cleaner engine
Friction modifiers help improve horsepower output

 

[skiingman]

Re: ....

Characteristics being...............
High performance and protection for today's engines that run at high RPM
New ashless anti-wear additives combined with ZDDP provide ultimate wear protection
Enhanced anti-foam system helps protect the engine even during extreme stress
Enhanced additives protect against high-temperature deposits for a cleaner engine
Friction modifiers help improve horsepower output

.....I haven't seen an oil test in which the Valvoline did as well as any of the other good brands. All oils have these additives, they have to to meet API standards. Some are better than others.

If you want a good, non synthetic oil and you arent worried about cost, there are better choices. You can't even figure out what weight to use.... you might want to reconsider your closed mindedness. Just a suggestion.
-Garrett

 

[Backy51]

not to be rude or anything, but , please just tell me what weight i should use, not what brand or type(synthetic). i've been told by many good people not to use synthetic and im sticking with valvoline because i know its a great oil and i used it in previous cars. i heard all about other brands but im not interested. i just need to know what weight to use. if someone who knows about oil could tell me the weight and why that weight, that would be great. i've read previous posts that say putting in 0w or 5w is like water for our engines. remember i live in florida and i have 74k on the engine. thanks

the main reason that 0w30 or 5w30 is used is because it circulates quicker helping get rid of the hla tick. The factory weight was 5w30, oh btw the 1st # has to do with the cold characteristics of the oil, the second number is the weight.

 

[parisifal]

All racing oil made for gasoline engines are FULL SYNTHETIC last time i checked. There is no such thing as a racing oil reformulated for the streets. Kinda like "New and Imporved", there are no such things.

And everyone on here will agree to go with full synthetic. Anyone who told you otherwise either knows that your engine is leaking major oil or is telling you a load of crap.

All those many people that told you not to use synthetics better be some hard core car guys with alot of experience in racing and performance engine maintenance, in which case they should have told you to go buy full synthetic. They are dumbasses and you are ignorant.

 

[CustomMX6]

What would be best to use during winter here? Keep in mind I'm in michigan, it gets below freezing. I think I have 10-W30 in right now, and I can pry end up changing my oil once before it starts to snow.

 

[eXtreMX-6]

CustomMX6>>> You would provbably want to go with a 5W30 for the winter. Youll have better start ups. 10w30 is a little thicker at start up so is better in the summer. Like Backy51 said. The first number is the cold start up and the second number is the weight of the oil. Its mainly jsut to make your car start up easier and be easier and circulate throught all the parts quicker at starts up.

 

[Arospeed12]

comments.................

correct me if i am wrong but i don't remember making any negative comments to anyone in this thread. now i don't know what got stuck up your a$$ parisifal but i am not ignorant i just know what oil i like. and once i find something that works and works well i stick with it. and maybe just maybe next time you decide to open your mouth about the people i know and trust, you could ask a simple question like who they are instead of just labeling them DUMBA$$ES. and to answer your question, yes they are hardcore. a couple ASE certified and a couple 1/4 mile runners. so lets here your take on synthetic brand oil parisifal and why i should switch. i want to hear what you have to say then i will compare what i've heard and read. and im not being a smart a$$, i really want to know what you have to say and here opinions from other people too. now if i could only get people to answer my original question about what grade to use that would be great!

 

[skiingman]

Re: comments.................

correct me if i am wrong but i don't remember making any negative comments to anyone in this thread. now i don't know what got stuck up your a$$ parisifal but i am not ignorant i just know what oil i like. and once i find something that works and works well i stick with it. and maybe just maybe next time you decide to open your mouth about the people i know and trust, you could ask a simple question like who they are instead of just labeling them DUMBA$$ES. and to answer your question, yes they are hardcore. a couple ASE certified and a couple 1/4 mile runners. so lets here your take on synthetic brand oil parisifal and why i should switch. i want to hear what you have to say then i will compare what i've heard and read. and im not being a smart a$$, i really want to know what you have to say and here opinions from other people too. now if i could only get people to answer my original question about what grade to use that would be great!

Your original question was answered. If you would like people to take you seriously, you might try making your posts more readable. They are quite hard to follow. :shrug:

Parisfial called you ignorant. I wouldn't go that far, but keep in mind that people aren't going to want to discuss oil with you if you act like a closed minded jerk.

A 10 second search yielded some interesting results:
http://www.valvoline.com/carcare/articleviewer.asp?pg=ccr20010101ov&cat=ccr
^Valvoline's take on oil grades and weights.

VR-1 is a marketing gimmick. It's not a "racing" oil, which are typically single weight, full synthetic or fully dino-oil.

http://www.1st-in-synthetics.com/dyno_test.htm
^ Arguably the best synthetic on the market. Try and find independent test data on the Valvoline site, then on the AMSOIL site.


The VR-1 oil is too new for me to find any good testing data. I doubt it will do very well compared to known good synthetics.

-Garrett

 

[Arospeed12]

you know what...........

i give up. i'll go somewhere else for my answer.

 

[skiingman]

:shrug:

 

[Backy51]

Re: you know what...........

i give up. i'll go somewhere else for my answer.

Asks for advice then doesn't like the advice given

 

[Harmony]

Re: comments.................

... they are hardcore. a couple ASE certified and a couple 1/4 mile runners.

Maybe you should go ask your knowledgeable hardcore, ASE certified quarter mile runners, rather than waste our time. Like skiingman said, your're simply acting like a close-minded jerk. If these guys are as all-knowing as you claim, then they should have told you what oil grade to use. Unless of course you are a mere admirer/follower/worshiper, and they have no idea who you are, and couldnt state your name if they saw you for a million bucks.

 

[parisifal]

Re: comments.................

correct me if i am wrong but i don't remember making any negative comments to anyone in this thread. now i don't know what got stuck up your a$$ parisifal but i am not ignorant i just know what oil i like. and once i find something that works and works well i stick with it. and maybe just maybe next time you decide to open your mouth about the people i know and trust, you could ask a simple question like who they are instead of just labeling them DUMBA$$ES. and to answer your question, yes they are hardcore. a couple ASE certified and a couple 1/4 mile runners. so lets here your take on synthetic brand oil parisifal and why i should switch. i want to hear what you have to say then i will compare what i've heard and read. and im not being a smart a$$, i really want to know what you have to say and here opinions from other people too. now if i could only get people to answer my original question about what grade to use that would be great!

A statement like that alone shows your lack of knowledge. I'm not even gonna bother with the synthetic argument. Just do a simple search like everyone else said and a BILLION answers will show up, all showing the benefits of synthetic. The only questionable non-synthetic uses are in Rotaries engines (having owned 3 of those) and even that is debatable. Your ASE certfiied friends are not very smart or more likely they are trying to SELL YOU OIL therefore they are stating that. Most ASE guys don't really know nor do they care about your engine or what sort of oil is use. And if your friends are hardcore 1/4 runners than they should be worshipping synthetic let alone suggesting anything else.

Go and do a search on Amsoil (like said above) and Redline, or if you got more money look up some of the more exotic German types. Heck go on any chat room may it be the Honda boys or the V8 boys, they'll all agree on one thing and that is synthetic. Oh and by the way, your QUESTION WAS ANSWERED, I am merely trying to anger you into finding out more info and maybe make treat your engine better.

By the way, there's a reason why Full Synthetic oils cost like $5 a quart versus the $1-$2 for dyno oil, they ARE that much better.

And before you go blabbing about how I should be asking who your friends are, I didn't bother because they gave you faulty advice. Msot people on this board will know I am an extremist at most points and I am very opinionated but all of which are aiming at YOUR BENEFITS. I rarely if ever flame anyone simply to flame them, rather when I am flaming I am trying to stir up your quest for more knowledge and maybe educate or persuade you from going in the improper direction.

 

[rylinkus]

I'm gonna jump in here. Arospeed, while I know you seem happy with your oil, you seriously may want to give full synth a try. There is in fact a reason that all the knowledgable members of this board swear by nothing less. I don't know the mechanics you deal with. But I will give you a warning that I've found many mechanics to be biased towards whatever was the good thing in the 70s or 80s.
Amsoil is AMAZING stuff. I'll find the thread on VWvortex that deals in it. It's did VERY well in the tests that were done on it. Far more then any other.
I know you are big on VR1. But do a bit of research into Amsoil. On other boards as well. You'll turn up nothing but good reviews.

EDIT: Can't find the page. But I guess the best I can say is this. If you search on NOACK and four-bearing tests you'll see Amsoil almot always does the best. And from what I can see they are the only oil maker that posts these results on their webpage. Think there's a reason for that?