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Hi,
Im trying to work out why you all love imports so much and slate home grown cars?
Im from the UK and the place is crawling with Nissans, Honda's, Toyota's etc. Have shed loads of Euro imports as well like crappy Renaults and Citrons.
Over here the average car has an egine size of about 1.8-2.0. Almost all are 4 cyl.
Only the sports cars have V8's, and most of the big saloons only have 2.5-3.0 V6 (BMW, Audis, big Fords).
Dont get me wrong, I like the Jap cars. I drive a Mazda and a Nissan on a day to day. But would love the chance to own one of the big V8 Fords or Camaro's. So what if they dont go as fast as a Type-R or RX7, its not the speed that apeals its the whole experience of having a large capacity V8..........

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Over here in the US of A we are plagued with large vehicles. Americans love their road hogging luxury battering rams. Everybody has SUV's, cadillacs, lincolns, and pickup trucks. Count your blessings son. Driving (translated as "getting stuck") behind these oblivious people driving these monsters gets old real quick. You can't see anything! People love the commanding view and safety of big cars. That gives them false security and makes them soft drivers. Having a quick turbo charged import with great agility is not only way more fun but it is a tool that helps you survive. The general American public does not acknowledge the fact that there are other people on the road. We are terrible drivers. With my import in traffic I can make maneuvers and run circles around these heavy big displacement vehicles that cannot even get out of their own way. Yeah, having a big V8 under the hood can be exhilarating in a straight line. But as soon as you try to bend the twisties your out of luck. I would rather have my six with the potential for almost as much acceration but blows those heavy beasts off the road when it comes to pulling g's.
 

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Granted, I can see the apeal of nimble cars.
I used to drive an Audi A3 1.8T, very fast in a straight line, and very quick on the corners. I have also had some big (For the UK) monsters ie: 3.5L Inline 6 BMW & Ford Explorer 4x4.
I thought it was just a myth that the US V8's where/are saggy straight line runners, did'nt know how much truth there was to it.
Over here the V8s are blistering fast cars. Take the TVR's for instance, mental cars in a straight line (0-60 in low 4's) but they also handle as well. While they can be a handful in the wrong hands, driven right all that power driven into the back wheels can be amazing.
Also in the Uk we dont have as many "Freeways" as you do. We have a number of motorways, 3-4 lanes with 70mph speed limit. But these are only to travel long runs between citys. Most of the roads in the UK aresingle carridge way, with many tight twisting corners. Its rare to find a road that stays in a straight line for more than a 3/4 of a mile. New roads and stuff are pretty good and there surfaces are exellent. The rest of the roads have been dug up and relaid 3-4 times a year and are patchy at best.
Traffic over here can be just as bad, but you really cant beat going out in to the country, finding a twisty back road and letting rip without the worry of seeing/meeting another car.
Ive always facied a large USA V8, somthing like a Corvette LT1 or a big Mustang. Even somthing like a oldist Z28.....
Call me crazy, but when everyone around u is driving some sortve japanese VTec this or RAMAir that, an old V8 with large amounts of cc would just stand out....

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Yeah, I don't envy Europe's crowded roadways. It is nice to drive here between 10PM and 6AM when nobody is out. You can really screw sometimes without worrying about other people on the road. You know what they say... the grass is always greener...
 

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you summed up our hate for big V8's in your own words.

"Call me crazy, but when everyone around u is driving some sortve japanese VTec this or RAMAir that, an old V8 with large amounts of cc would just stand out...."

Here, everyone here has a V8 sports car. To me it's not very difficult to make a Z28 or Mustang go faster or quicker. They come like that. Putting a new Z28 into the 12's is easy. The SS already comes with those numbers. But putting an import (they look better too) that runs low 15s or high 14s into the 12s seems a little bit more challenging. I want to be different in my country as you want to in your's.

Call me crazy, but when everyone around me is driving some sort of American SVT this or SS that, an older sleeker model V6 or I4T with medium displacement and light weight would just stand out... and it does.
 

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I agree totally with what Aggie said. Where I come from there are NOTHING but camaro's and mustangs. I'd never seen an RX-7 or Supra except in magazines before I moved. Acuras are rare, because the closest dealer is 130 miles away. So, my 6 stands out, because I'm the only turbo in the area, which includes 300,000 people. Not the only turbo car, but, the only turbo mx-6.
I LOVE the look on peoples faces when they hear the turbo. I love spanking people in mustangs and then telling them that they just got spanked by "a little old 4-banger"
 

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why imports? is it obvious why?

I love my 6, its a near stock GT, turbocharged and one of the most underrated cars on the road...most people just shake their head when they want to race me like its a sure bet, but i tell you what, when any GT races another car, whether stock or not, its not looked upon with full capability. i dont have the turbo emblem on my 6, i got it without it, i was going to get the emblem, but i kind of like that surprise effect after you make an Iroc Z look like your every day commutor. Like i always say, its better to have a car that looks average and performs way above average then to have a nice looking car that is a DOG. "if the earth was square i'd drive an american car, but since it is round i have to turn"

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Hey, MazdaMiester, I went to the dealer today and ordered a turbo sticker. It cost me $10.25 after tax. I just had them look up a 92 mx6 GT, since the 88's didn't come with a sticker. If you want one, I'd say that's the way to go.
 

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I think I get where your comming from.
The car park at work here is full of japanese cars.
There are a couple of MX6 (UK Spec is 2.5l V6 only), 1 3000GT , hand full of civics and shed loads of Toyota.
There are some sad escort rag tops that look so sad.
Nothing really big. Flashes cars are two Porsches - One is an early 911 Carera 2 and the other is a new shape turbo....
Do the MX6 come as standard with a turbo in the USA? how many models are there? I hear talk about 1st gen.
The only one we have had is the current one, no options just one model the 2.5 V6.
As for Accura, take it you mean Toyota? if so most small towns over here have a Toyota, Honda Nissan and Ford garage. Larger towns have almost every kind of car firms. Even Crystler are over here. But the biggest thing they do is a Grand Cherokee. Most of there other stock is Neons.
One make we get over here is Vauxhall? (Opel in Europe) its owned by GM, do you get any of there crap out in the state?

Cheers.

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evilwoozl said:

Do the MX6 come as standard with a turbo in the USA? how many models are there? I hear talk about 1st gen.
The only one we have had is the current one, no options just one model the 2.5 V6.
As for Accura, take it you mean Toyota? if so most small towns over here have a Toyota, Honda Nissan and Ford garage. Larger towns have almost every kind of car firms.
One make we get over here is Vauxhall? (Opel in Europe) its owned by GM, do you get any of there crap out in the state?

Cheers.

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1st gen MX-6 is model years 88-92. 2nd gen is model years 93 on. 1st gens were all four cylinder and the GT package included a turbo and intercooler amoungst other performance upgrades.
Acura is an american spin-off of Honda. Instead of the Honda NSX we have the Acura NSX. No Vauxhall or Opel here. Over here GM is Chevrolet, Pontiac, GMC (trucks), Cadillac, Saturn. I agree, most of it is crap.
 

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funny thing..... here in OZ if you want to really stand out you get US car, ther is just to many Japs around. not saying that they are bad(i drive one, remember).
its very hard to turn head here even supra and Rx7 dont get as much attention as say a latter 'stang or gen 4 Camaro.
 

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turbo emblem, mines gone from old accident

I can see where my car was hit before i owned it(change in paint, etc etc) it had a turbo emblem before the accident(im 90% sure of it) and they didnt put it back on just because the shop that worked on it couldnt order the emblem in time. I ordered one at my shop for 7 bucks(my cost hehe)and also ordered 2 GT emblems because mine are missing parts of them(paid 9 bucks for the pair of em!) 88 and 89 ALL came with turbo emblems, i had a Very early 88 626 turbo hatch, production date 11/24/87 and it had the emblem. my car is 6/11/88 production date so it must have had the emblem. Another thing im VERY curious about is the CD player they allegedly had as an option in 88 and 89. It shows it in the brochures but i have never heard, seen, or known anybody to actual have one or see one. They show a picture of it so ONE must exist but is that a dropped option that they didnt have?


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I dunno about the cd player, never even heard about it.
The turbo emblem was never on my car. It was never wrecked, the paint matches up everywhere, and there is no spot where it looks like there was ever an emblem. Well, I want one, dammit, just wish I could have gotten your price. Oh well.
 

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Re: turbo emblem, mines gone from old accident

MazdaMiester said:
. Another thing im VERY curious about is the CD player they allegedly had as an option in 88 and 89. It shows it in the brochures but i have never heard, seen, or known anybody to actual have one or see one. They show a picture of it so ONE must exist but is that a dropped option that they didnt have?


Eric
I have an 88 lx and it came with a cd player. I don't know if it was stock but it was a Pioneer, it looked old
and looked like it came with the car. i replaced it with an aftermarket one though because it skipped every time i hit a bump.
 

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Hello, I've been reading your posts in this thread and figured I'd add a little. My first transportation when I got my license was a little Nissan pick-up, my dad bought it new in '87 and just got rid of it last year (traded for a Frontier 4X4). After that, don't laugh, I drove a 1 liter, 3-cylinder Metro around until I got my MX-6 in '95. My MX-6 has been and still is an out-standing car considering the torture I've put it through. In these past years I've owned it I've replaced the 5-speed (driver error :) ) replaced the altenator and distributor but other than that it has been and still is an excellent car. It had 60k miles on it when I got it and it currently has 177k miles on it now and other than a little puff of smoke upon crank-up (due to bad valve-stem seals i think) she's still a dream with plenty of power.
Now just several weeks ago I picked up a '90 GT with 98,999 miles on it for $600. It's been hit in the front but I've had it on the frame machine and everything is pulling out nicely. I'm going to have to replace the radiator support, and all the sheet metal on the front. I also have another project car: an '86 Capri (Mustang). I'm replacing the front and rear ends with 87-93 bumpers and headlights.
Japanese cars are reliable, get great gas mileage, nice looking (especially the 6's), and are all around great and fun cars to drive (6's). But nothing can compare to an Amercian V8's tire smoking, gas-guzzling image. I love both sides: Japanese and American. But I think the bottom line for me is I like to go fast, you know, when your adrenaline starts pumpin' and you get the shakes......yeaaaaah.....I think I'll go for a drive now.:cool: All of you take care of yourselves and your 6's.


Fellow Sixer,
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bergd you have a picture of the cd player? do you still have it?

still got the cd player? if so do you have a pic? im VERY interested if it was stock

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yeah I still have it. ill try to get a pic of it. It has an am/fm radio, cd player, and tape player. it would have to be cleaned, the whole reason i replaced it was because it skipped every time i went over a bump. Ill get a pic as soon as i can and post it
 

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Bergd, didnt work, got another link or something?

Hey dude that link didnt work(unfortunatly!) got another one?


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