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Zeitronix is by far the best bang for the buck that you can get and reads down to 9.6. Innovative also makes one for for roughly the same price but it doesnt have as many bells and whistles as the ZT2. AEM make a gauge style but that is set up for N/A applications therfor only reads to 11.0

If you want the macdaddy of them all, look into PLX.
 

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I run 10.5-11:1.

Any higher, it detonates.

Innovate LM1. The styling looks like it came straight out of the 80's, i've had some issues but its an okay unit.
 

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Yes I do... And? If youre stock a wideband isnt needed.
Which you're not, far from it. If the VJ11 and the stock ECU dip lower than 10's, imagine what you're doing thinking 11-12 is "safe"

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Running in the 10's modded isnt going to help power either. 11-12.5's is safe.
No, it isn't Ray. In fact, far from it. You may make good power there but it is by no means "safe".
 

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Yup safe is generally said to be around 11:1 on turbo vehicles, courtesy of dyno shops.

For higher boost/pump gas, I'd certainly suggest 10.5:1.

On another note, the LM1 isnt terribly accurate. The display has been found to be around 1 full AFR off in the 11-12 range courtesy of word of mouth and dyno runs of my friends LM1 vs. the dyno wideband.

FOr him it read 1 point leaner on the dyno that the LM1. Not good...
 

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Mine was the same way....

both of us have done multiple free air calibrations. Its simple to do, I dont know how one would have "problems"

This has been reported multiple times
 

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I don't think I will use the innovative if people are having problems with it. The Zeitronix has to have a laptop to be used? I am thinking about the Zeitronix or the PLX
 

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The innovate isnt a bad unit... just not terribly accurate. It's pretty close though, good enough. I like it, certainly helps with tuning like no tomorrow.
 

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PLX has multiple controllers but the one thats similar to the ZT2 (R-500) costs close to $600. It isn't the one you're looking at, the one you're looking at doesn't even have the option for datalogging even if you wanted to.


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I don't think I will use the innovative if people are having problems with it. The Zeitronix has to have a laptop to be used? I am thinking about the Zeitronix or the PLX
Nope, everything is displayed so long as you get the LCD screen but you have the option of using a laptop in conjunction with the LCD or extracting the info later on:
http://www.mx6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=98682
http://www.zeitronix.com/ you can alos get data logging for the low price of $400

PLX R-500 costs a boatload more than ZT2 but is pretty nifty:
http://www.mx6.com/forums/showthread.php?t=131953

http://www.plxdevices.com/onlinestore_domestic.htm

If you're interested in the R-500 I can probably get a 10-15% discount on it. A friend of mine is a sales rep:D
 

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Which you're not, far from it. If the VJ11 and the stock ECU dip lower than 10's, imagine what you're doing thinking 11-12 is "safe"

No, it isn't Ray. In fact, far from it. You may make good power there but it is by no means "safe".
All the cars Ive seened tuned at a local shop run in the 11-12 AFR's. CFT has a great name, fast cars, and they last.

My compression is still good and my plugs are nice and tan/brown. Also, with the low compression ratio of the F2T Im sure running high 11's wouldnt hurt. When I upgrade my turbo I'll keep it under 11.5's.
 
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